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post #61 of 75

Demo bindings are not normally offered to the public so I am not surprised they are not mentioned on their website.  Demo bindings are for ski shops and demo shops to quickly change the binding position to accomadate a variety of boot sizes.  If you want that capability in a binding most shops would order a demo version of what ever binding you want and install on your skis.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rick

post #62 of 75

I had the Griffin Schizo's on my DPS 112's all last season and loved them -- no problems, and easy to play with the fore- aft positioning for dialing in to conditions.  I swapped them out this season with a pair of Dukes to do a little backcountry, so my Schizo's are for sale.  They've probably got 25-30 days on them.  PM me if interested.

post #63 of 75

I had two seasons on my Jester Zos, mounted to 189 obSETHeds, before I had a pre-release that I can probably attribute to not stepping in fully, they were dialed to 10.

Skied them the rest of the day with no issues, but a nicely cranked knee.

 

Got a new pair of boots ths fall with a shorter BSL, but by only 4mm, and when I tried them at home I noticed that one of the bindings was horribly out of adjustment, I could pull the one boot right out of the binding. This happened while stored in the off season. Took them to the shop here that did the install and found that some piece was missing from under the toe piece, so they replaced both during the inspection. Skied them in Decmeber in CO and had NO problems. Oh, and I dialed them back to 8.5 to be a little more practical.

 

I am told this was not the first year Zos, but a enhanced version from the original. BS? I couldn't tell you.

 

I skied Tyrolia Railflexs for several years with no issues other than the track does wear out and create slop, but the ability to pop off the toe and heel piece and bag two pairs of boards was priceless.

 

I am more careful when stepping in now and believe that the install is far more complicated then it should be.

 

I love the versatility, but if it hadn't been a season ending close out price I probably would have passed.

 

Ski safe my friends.

post #64 of 75

I have Griffins on my 2013 Mantras and they performed well in all conditions pow and ice. I am a big man exceeding 250lbs and ski very aggressively and all over the mountain. I decided to try the Griffin Schizo this season on a pair of  skis to ski switch and park. I'll have them on a different set of skis and see how they do... If they can withstand me pounding on them for a few seasons, then I will be impressed. 

post #65 of 75
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Originally Posted by jatyliz View Post

Why do skiers call them Demo's? I looked at the website and it simply states Griffon.

 

 

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Originally Posted by rickg View Post
 

Demo bindings are not normally offered to the public so I am not surprised they are not mentioned on their website. 

 

Griffon Demos are readily available:

 

http://www.powder7.com/Marker-Griffon-Demo-Ski-Bindings/sale

 

http://store.allspeed.com/marker-griffon-demo-binding-2013-2014/

 

http://www.glacierskishop.com/store/binding/griffon-demo-marker-2014#.UpE-KSddDMs

 

http://www.untracked.com/p4890c81b54-14_marker_griffon_13_demo_ski_binding.html

post #66 of 75

Switching the Jesters over to a pair of Patron 193s, looking for more float out of my daily driver if that's possible. Thought the Schizos would be a good match for a ski with a bit softer tail and no metal.

So these 09/10 Markers, mounted March '10 with about 30 days, worked well last season for the 9 or 10 days I spent on them.

The last 6 days were at Vail last April when they were getting slammed, even on the original closing date with another 10" or so.

The ability to dial back on the Obsetheds was priceless, though I should have brought the Hellbents

One word of advice, with all the parts I will be having the Schizos checked every fall by the shop. These are not mount and forget bindings IMO, my Railflexs were trouble-free for the 5 seasons I used them......at least until they started to wobble.

post #67 of 75

Son has had schizos on his JJ,s hes 220 for 4 years now no issues 30-50 day seasons. I put the Schizo on my Faction 3 zeros last year to dial in from ice to powder days and they work great second season now.

post #68 of 75
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

WR...my only modern Markers only exist because of the hostage situation with Blizzard. 

 

 

And Volkl, and K2, and Nordica, and.....   :duck:

 

 

They aren't my personal preference, but I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with the Marker Royal bindings... and I have a hard time believing the Jester or Jester Pro isn't going to last a good long time.

post #69 of 75
I'm 220 lbs and pretty aggressive skier. I have 3 pair of jester schizos and one pair of griffon schizos and one griffon demo (on 5 different skis all being used) ... So far over the last few years - no problems. I've enjoyed the simple adjustability for varying conditions, but mostly just enjoy not having anxiety over mount position. Set em at boot center then tweak on the mountain. I've loved them. Compared to salomon STH binding they are a little harder to pop into if snow on your heel, but other than that I've loved them. All mine have the little plastic cable shim which seems to have eliminated any cable slipping issues. Durability has been fine. I haven't noticed much "feel" difference between the jesters and griffons. The griffon demos vs the schizos? Two screws vs one - either is fine. Just make sure the forward pressure hasn't been altered on the demos. It would be easy to think you adjusted both the toe and heel the same even if you didn't. That's been my experience...
post #70 of 75

I think the Schizos are popular now due to fat ski mount points as well, takes the guess work out, and the price sure indicates that.

post #71 of 75

I liken them to PIP (Picture in Picture) or 3D on a television, you use it for the first month, they forget about it. Sure some people will utilize them to the fullest, but they are few and far between. 

post #72 of 75

One thing I noticed about the schizos was that i wash't able to get my skis on edge very well.  I assumed it was because I was skiing a rather fat ski (bent chetler).  Anyway, after I took them off I grabbed the toe piece of the binding with my hand and saw if i could twist it lateraly in the track at all.  There's actually quite a bit of play that's observable.  Not good.  

 

The other thing I don't like about the schizo (and other markers) is that they can be a bitch to put on in powder.  Doesn't take much snow for them to plug up. Pivots are way better in this regard. 

post #73 of 75

Mine are now four seasons old, but work well on my Patrons at the traditional line. They were re-built after the second season as parts had fallen off, believe it or not. I no longer run my DIN at 11, which I feel was part of the issue with them "loosening up". I was shocked to have missing parts after just two seasons. No problems as of the end of this season. ;-)

post #74 of 75
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Originally Posted by Surly Bob View Post

One thing I noticed about the schizos was that i wash't able to get my skis on edge very well.  I assumed it was because I was skiing a rather fat ski (bent chetler).  Anyway, after I took them off I grabbed the toe piece of the binding with my hand and saw if i could twist it lateraly in the track at all.  There's actually quite a bit of play that's observable.  Not good.  



 



The other thing I don't like about the schizo (and other markers) is that they can be a bitch to put on in powder.  Doesn't take much snow for them to plug up. Pivots are way better in this regard. 


 



I have the Jester Schizo mounted on my Volkl Shiro's, I have only skied them 6 or 7 times in the spring crud, but have no trouble making railroad track style carves with them. They go edge to edge like any of my other skis.
Edited by Max Capacity - 4/29/14 at 9:24am
post #75 of 75

I have Griffon Schizos mounted to a pair of Head Rock n Roll skis I finally got to try out late this year.  Getting in and out of the bindings was no issue at all, retention was good and I had no trouble getting the skis on and off edge.  Looking forward to playing around with the forward/backward adjustments to see what feels best in different conditions.

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