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post #91 of 113

Pics of these folks as well as some other mountain bandits [over on TGR] show up for damn good reason…we all notice some youthful originality spring up from an otherwise popular, however "sustainably" mundane, format.  While I couldn’t sustain these positions over the long haul, the photos give me some fun stuff to imitate on a few turns while out playing about.  A good thing…

…oh…and don’t let bumpfreaq fool  you.  I’ve skied enough with him to know he invented and holds the patents for all these moves the youngin’s rock    

post #92 of 113
 Posaune, we knew you didn't mean the vanilla thing. 
post #93 of 113
Here's our skier in a commerical for Northstar. Now that's skiing right there.:-O
post #94 of 113
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post
and don’t let bumpfreaq fool  you.  I’ve skied enough with him to know he invented and holds the patents for all these moves the youngin’s rock    

Yup, it's true.  I'm the original tail gunner!
post #95 of 113
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Yup, it's true.  I'm the original tail gunner!

I've been the road captain for the last couple rides.  I could use a good tail gunner to pick up the pieces.
post #96 of 113
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I've been the road captain for the last couple rides.  I could use a good tail gunner to pick up the pieces.
 

Sorry Cirque, I'm doin' my best to retire.
post #97 of 113
Wow,

PhilT you are not nuts...you just dont know what great skiing looks like.

Those guys are showing PERFECT fore/aft balance.

Skiing happens in 3D not 2D.  I have explained this concept at nauseam on this board.  Look it up.  Ron LeMaster explains it well in his book.

Remember, Clinic leaders simplify skiing into a 2D world for rookie instructors...this works for beginner to intermediate skiers, because they ski at low to moderate speeds on low to moderate slopes...crank the speed, or pitch and that 2D model crashes and burns...becuase the simplfying assumption no longer holds true...skiing is now full on 3D.

Look at any WC racer entering the transition you will see the same thing.

For those interested and looking for a hint look up "virtual bump"...then combine that with powder....and you get the action seen in those shots to create perfect "fore/aft" balance.  NOTE also that this postion changes throught the turn....fore/aft balance MOVES it is not static...those shots are all taken at the end of the turns entering transition...perfect....the shots a second or  two later at turn intiation would show a very different fore/aft postion...dont understand how you go from back to forward?  look up transitions, and converging diverging COM and BOS concepts...I have explaned that lots too as does R. LeMaster.
Edited by Skidude72 - 9/14/09 at 12:15am
post #98 of 113
Skier666 (TGR name) here....

I guess I registered a long time ago on this site as 'dnb skier.'

Anyway, finally checked out this thread.  Everyone is correct, even Phil.  The shots that he's talking about are totally staged just to capture the moment, the background, and the snow.  Most of those 'tail shots' are taken at the end of the turn as I transfer much of the weight onto my inside ski.  I perform that style of turn only for those kind of pictures.  Its done solely skiing picture stoke, ie entertainment. If you go through any of my TRs, you'll know how serious we take things.

I'm starting to archive my old TR's from TGR, and feel free to check out the rest of the tailgunnin' NZ trip and other ones at:

http://www.slaythegnar.com - still in beta though.

Is this old pic of me on K2 Enemies satisfactory for you Phil?

post #99 of 113
Seems like a lot of pictures I've seen of Bode Miller ... athletic/strong makes it work ...I heard the backseat analysis applied to him.  But he wins races  and these guys have images that could fit on a current magazine cover ... why isn't everyone happy ... looks like they had a great time ;-)
-- Andrew

post #100 of 113
666,
Thanks for the visit, good stuff!
JF
post #101 of 113
 Bode admits to skiing in the back seat. I remember him saying that he proved to everyone that you can win the overall from the back seat.
post #102 of 113
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Originally Posted by Skidude72 View Post

Wow,

PhilT you are not nuts...you just dont know what great skiing looks like.

Those guys are showing PERFECT fore/aft balance.

Skiing happens in 3D not 2D.  I have explained this concept at nauseam on this board.  Look it up.  Ron LeMaster explains it well in his book.

Remember, Clinic leaders simplify skiing into a 2D world for rookie instructors...this works for beginner to intermediate skiers, because they ski at low to moderate speeds on low to moderate slopes...crank the speed, or pitch and that 2D model crashes and burns...becuase the simplfying assumption no longer holds true...skiing is now full on 3D.

Look at any WC racer entering the transition you will see the same thing.

For those interested and looking for a hint look up "virtual bump"...then combine that with powder....and you get the action seen in those shots to create perfect "fore/aft" balance.  NOTE also that this postion changes throught the turn....fore/aft balance MOVES it is not static...those shots are all taken at the end of the turns entering transition...perfect....the shots a second or  two later at turn intiation would show a very different fore/aft postion...dont understand how you go from back to forward?  look up transitions, and converging diverging COM and BOS concepts...I have explaned that lots too as does R. LeMaster.

 

Excellent post  in one of the worst threads on epic .
post #103 of 113
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Originally Posted by Dnb Skier View Post

Skier666 (TGR name) here....

I guess I registered a long time ago on this site as 'dnb skier.'

Anyway, finally checked out this thread.  Everyone is correct, even Phil.  The shots that he's talking about are totally staged just to capture the moment, the background, and the snow.  Most of those 'tail shots' are taken at the end of the turn as I transfer much of the weight onto my inside ski.  I perform that style of turn only for those kind of pictures.  Its done solely skiing picture stoke, ie entertainment. If you go through any of my TRs, you'll know how serious we take things.

I'm starting to archive my old TR's from TGR, and feel free to check out the rest of the tailgunnin' NZ trip and other ones at:

http://www.slaythegnar.com - still in beta though.

Is this old pic of me on K2 Enemies satisfactory for you Phil?


 
I loved this post!

Today I got to thinking about how there's a phenomenon produced by digital photography that I'll call, "Skiing for the camera." People have learned to put themselves into particular positions for a photo, and then use the photo to demonstrate their prowess. Kinda the opposite of these guys who do a great job creating beautiful pictures by putting their bodies into positions that are attractive to so many. Well done, Skier666/Dnb Skier and crew!
post #104 of 113
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Today I got to thinking about how there's a phenomenon produced by digital photography that I'll call, "Skiing for the camera."
It wasn't just digital photography. 
This reminded me of a time when I was sent out with a photographer to capture some "action shots".  I had some great ideas, but all she wanted me to do was come as close to her as I could & spray the camera with snow.  This was in the mid 80's before digital, & I doubt she had a rapid fire shutter.  My father came across the result while I was visiting him this summer.  I'm sure the MA folks could rip this picture apart, but that's what the media wanted back then.  It seems the same kinda thing is still popular today.



Thanks,
JF
post #105 of 113
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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post

It wasn't just digital photography. 
This reminded me of a time when I was sent out with a photographer to capture some "action shots".  I had some great ideas, but all she wanted me to do was come as close to her as I could & spray the camera with snow.  This was in the mid 80's before digital, & I doubt she had a rapid fire shutter.  My father came across the result while I was visiting him this summer.  I'm sure the MA folks could rip this picture apart, but that's what the media wanted back then.  It seems the same kinda thing is still popular today.

 
Thanks,
JF
Nice smile! 

Absolutely true! It's just that with digital photography, anyone can do it! 

I've seen a number of amateur attempts to make slopes look steeper, too... 
post #106 of 113
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Nice smile
 

 

That was the other important ingredient besides spraying her with snow.  "Make sure you're smiling".  That's not usually a problem for me though.


JF

post #107 of 113
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I've seen a number of amateur attempts to make slopes look steeper, too... 
 

It's not like the photographer needed to enhance the steepness of the slope, but he did anyway. Either that or he was trying to mitigate the appearance that I was chasing my skis down the hill.

I couldn't have held that position very long. My thighs would have exploded.

post #108 of 113
Niiiiice! 

Those K2s were nice skis, weren't they? 
post #109 of 113
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post

Niiiiice! 

Those K2s were nice skis, weren't they? 

They sure were. Still have 'em. Gonna take 'em for a spin at least once this upcoming season.
post #110 of 113
210's I guessing.

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Originally Posted by ssh View Post

Niiiiice! 

Those K2s were nice skis, weren't they? 
 
post #111 of 113
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Originally Posted by Morrison Claystone View Post

They sure were. Still have 'em. Gonna take 'em for a spin at least once this upcoming season.
Enjoy 'em! When I broke out my old Atomic SLs a couple years ago early season (the green ones that competed with the Rossi teal), I scared the bejezus out of myself! Yikes! They hadn't aged well... or maybe it's just me... 
post #112 of 113
Thread Starter 
BUMP!!!!!!

Lol, I forgot about this thread before the last couple pages of posts so it has been interesting going back and reading over them.

Honestly i'm sure that i'm not the one who is nuts. It's all of you morons. At least 666 understands what I was talking about. 
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Originally Posted by Dnb Skier View Post

Skier666 (TGR name) here....

I guess I registered a long time ago on this site as 'dnb skier.'

Anyway, finally checked out this thread.  Everyone is correct, even Phil.  The shots that he's talking about are totally staged just to capture the moment, the background, and the snow.  Most of those 'tail shots' are taken at the end of the turn as I transfer much of the weight onto my inside ski.  I perform that style of turn only for those kind of pictures.  Its done solely skiing picture stoke, ie entertainment. If you go through any of my TRs, you'll know how serious we take things.

I'm starting to archive my old TR's from TGR, and feel free to check out the rest of the tailgunnin' NZ trip and other ones at:

http://www.slaythegnar.com - still in beta though.

Is this old pic of me on K2 Enemies satisfactory for you Phil?


 
Yes those pics are better in my opinion, and I've seen many more like them in all of 666's TRs. They pop up randomly amidst the tail gunning. 

From the beginning, this thread was never ment to criticize 666's technique. It was about his taste.

Like he said above, I know he doesn't ski like that. Because I know that he can't ski like that. You know why? Because I can pull off a turn like that too. And anybody who has done it knows that they would never do it in every turn as part of a ski run.

THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD, WHICH ALL OF YOU IDIOTS MISSED WAS I WAS SAYING THAT I WOULD RATHER SEE A TR FULL OF THE SKIERS SKIING LIKE THEY NORMALLY WOULD. 

LIke this:




All I was asking in this thread was if anybody else felt this way.


ALSO

Mr. TeleRodUpYourAss - ARE WE STILL ON?!?!?

Edited by PhilT - 2/5/10 at 11:37pm
post #113 of 113
Edit:  I now see this is an old thread.  Let it die.
Edited by Crud Buster - 2/6/10 at 6:06pm
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