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Powder-specific ski for my old man

post #1 of 16
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Although this is my first post here I have tried the search function but haven't found anything relevant, so hopefully some of you can help.

My 74 year old father has asked me to help find him some powder-specific skis. He grew up skiing before our mountains had lifts, he skis with excellent technique and finesse, slightly old school (narrow stance, more skidding than carving) and can ski any run on the mountain. He still races (winning his age category usually), he still heli-skis, he still travels to Japan every year - he's a legend.

He doesn't get much enjoyment from the groomers, it's all about the powder, tree skiing and off-piste. Forget bumps, forget edge hold on hard-pack. This ski will be mostly used in Japan.

He is 6' tall, around 80kg (176 pounds) and has 74 year old legs. He's a smooth, non-agressive skier.

His idea of a powder ski is soft, flexible, floaty... so, any recommendations?

Thanks in advance,
Henry in Australia.
Edited by henlan77 - 9/4/09 at 9:13pm
post #2 of 16
If he wants a conventional ski I would try: Scott P4 or Volkl Sanooks or Atomic Thugs if you can find them.

Just about any fat funshape will work great in pow. But be warned, if you put him on a pair of PRaxis Powders he will go too fast and have too much fun. Could be dangerous. ;) 
post #3 of 16
Pontoon.

Big, soft, floaty, and flexible. Definitely a pow only ski, but one of the best you can buy.
post #4 of 16
 Rossignol S7
post #5 of 16
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 Rossignol S7


I'll second that. Big, easy to ski, very forgiving, big sweet spot, another no brainer rossignol ski.
post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the recommendations guys, keep them coming.
post #7 of 16
175 Armada JJ; if he skis in Niseko can no doubt rent from Rythym & Beats. Or just check out some of the ski shops in Tokyo for last year or older models before heading to mountains.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
I guess the next question is length. 170 - 180cm??
post #9 of 16
If he gets a modern 'funshape' then he will want a slightly longer length (low to mid 180 range), if he goes with a conventional ski then fat and slightly shorter (low to mid 170 range).
post #10 of 16
 I'd say 188 for the S7. It feels about like a 140.
post #11 of 16
Try the Stockli Stormrider TT.  Unlike the other Stormriders, it is EASY to ski either slow or fast in powder and is great between the trees.  It is relatively unknown, but perfect for him.  Don't be afraid of the twin tip (TT), he can get down any front side without a problem because they are laterally stiff and have a great edge hold.  He can ski it as small as a 177cm if he is getting a little weaker or tentative.
post #12 of 16
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 he skis with excellent technique and finesse, slightly old school (narrow stance, more skidding than carving) and can ski any run on the mountain. He still races (winning his age category usually), he still heli-skis, he still travels to Japan every year - he's a legend.

He doesn't get much enjoyment from the groomers, it's all about the powder, tree skiing and off-piste. Forget bumps, forget edge hold on hard-pack. This ski will be mostly used in Japan.

He is 6' tall, around 80kg (176 pounds) and has 74 year old legs. He's a smooth, non-agressive skier.

His idea of a powder ski is soft, flexible, floaty... so, any recommendations?


He needs a pair of Volkl Sanouks. They fit every criteria you described exactly. I'm as big a fan of reverse/reverse and rocker as anybody, but when you say "old-school technique" and "soft and floaty" you are describing a Sanouk exactly. You should be able to pick up a pair lightly used for pretty cheap. There's nothing wrong with buying used skis - especially when they are classics and are exactly what you're looking for. And don't be fooled buy the 193 length - they are super forgiving. If he skis with any kindof narrow stance whatsoever he will absolutely hate Pontoons.
post #13 of 16
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He doesn't get much enjoyment from the groomers, it's all about the powder, tree skiing and off-piste. Forget bumps, forget edge hold on hard-pack. This ski will be mostly used in Japan.

He is 6' tall, around 80kg (176 pounds) and has 74 year old legs. He's a smooth, non-agressive skier.

His idea of a powder ski is soft, flexible, floaty... so, any recommendations?

Thanks in advance,
Henry in Australia.

Here you go and they are $300 off. Your dad would rule the pow on these: http://praxisskis.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=61&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=29
post #14 of 16
If he is willing to learn new tricks then a fun shape would be a great idea. If not, Jer is right.  The safe bet is the Sanooks.
post #15 of 16
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He needs a pair of Volkl Sanouks. They fit every criteria you described exactly. I'm as big a fan of reverse/reverse and rocker as anybody, but when you say "old-school technique" and "soft and floaty" you are describing a Sanouk exactly. You should be able to pick up a pair lightly used for pretty cheap. There's nothing wrong with buying used skis - especially when they are classics and are exactly what you're looking for. And don't be fooled buy the 193 length - they are super forgiving. If he skis with any kindof narrow stance whatsoever he will absolutely hate Pontoons.

+1 that is a very good suggestion.
post #16 of 16
I've got the perfect ski for him. First generation Elan 999. In spite of it's narrow (99) waist by today's powder ski standards they are soft and floaty, not in the skim the surface way that some bigger skis are, but in the bouncy fun way.  Too bad you're a little far away to swing by for a demo.
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