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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I wanted to put this in the "Ask the boot guys forum", but couldn't find the "New Thread icon".

Looking at the gear reviews, I noticed that Lange has a couple of boots with vibram hiking soles.  The Super Banshee is one & another with a 102mm last & walk mode.  Are there other companies doing that this year besides the usual rondo boots?

I have a couple of questions. 
 
Are these boots compatible with regular din alpine bindings?  

I have a relatively low volume foot, with a very wide forefoot.  I also have neuroma damage in both feet.  My alpine boots are Lange WC RL 11's, 308mm sole.  I believe these are a 95mm last.  With a lot of grinding & punching in the forefoot these boots fit & ski great.  I tend to do a lot of hiking & skinning just outside the boundaries at my home resort & I am looking for something beefy & comfortable that can take some abuse.  Some of the walking I do is on pavement, & some on rocky ledges or icy steeps.  It kills me to wreck the soles of my slippery race boots, as well as my poor feet.  Would a 102mm last be way too loose? 

The idea of cushy comfort is appealing, but I don't want to sacrifice too much performance.  I already have a regular, lighter rondo set-up, so these boots would be used with barons for skinning but mostly hiking with regular alpine bindings.  What do you guys know about these boots?  Any recommendations or suggestions?

Thanks,
JF
post #2 of 13
The Lange and Rossi boots have a VERY thin vibram sole, it is compatible with alpine bindings, will provide a bit better grip on rock/ pavement but it isn't a rockered AT sole, it's an alpine boot sole. If you have ever seen a Garmont Shaman then you know what to expect.

Will you be OK with the 102mm last? Probably not... but who knows.
post #3 of 13
To go off on a sort of related tangent (sorry for the hijack) has anybody used the Walk-EZ as a hiking aid. I know they are gaperific but they look sort of like they might work for hiking.
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks Whiteroom.  I actually have a pair of Endorphins with the interchangeable soles, but they are just not the boot for me.

PhilT,  I have tried those Walk-EZ things.  They have a ton of rocker & take some getting used to, but they do provide some relief when walking & protection to your boot soles.  To me they are not worth the hassle, & you are right they are supercalogaperific!

JF
post #5 of 13
Until there is a binding that doesn't require a slick surface on the toe to work best I don't see a feasible way to have an alpine boot that is conducive to walking on ice, rocks and snow.  Until then, If I'm parked more than an 8th mile from where I can step in to skis I'll be gaping these:


The do smash down small enough to fit in a large jacket pocket, but I usually just attach them to my cable lock and leave them locked to a pole or rack at the base lodge somewhere convenient. 
post #6 of 13
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I can't figure out what makes these gaper apparel.  If you grind your boot down it may not release properly and it WILL be ground down by pavement and gravel.  These things not only save your boot, they make it easier to walk long distances.  They fit in a thigh pocket on my pants and I use them every time I go somewhere that I have to walk any distance in my boots.

If that's being a gaper, so be it:  I'm a gaper and I'm PROUD!
post #7 of 13
 Last spring everybody started appearing with Vibram lifters on their alpine boots. They look just like the Lange bottoms and you could put them on anything.
post #8 of 13
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I can't figure out what makes these gaper apparel.  If you grind your boot down it may not release properly and it WILL be ground down by pavement and gravel.  These things not only save your boot, they make it easier to walk long distances.  They fit in a thigh pocket on my pants and I use them every time I go somewhere that I have to walk any distance in my boots.

If that's being a gaper, so be it:  I'm a gaper and I'm PROUD!
 

Heels and Toes are generally replaceable these days.  No need to protect them, GAPER!!  













hehe
post #9 of 13
if you are fitting a 95mm odds are the 102 will not.   As the forefoot gets wider, the heel/ankle will get wider too.    If you can except the extra width in the heel great, but odds are the boot will feel boat like.

Go to your local lange dealer and try some on?
post #10 of 13
The Super Banshee (or the Banshee Pro from '09) are 98mm forefoot last. The Super Blaster (??) is a 102.

SJ
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks mntlion & SJ,
 
I will try some on as soon as I get a chance.  I'm pretty sure the 102mm will be boatlike as I have a pretty narrow heel & ankle.  The 98mm may work though.  I am just looking at alternatives as to what will be best for my feet, & keep me from thrashing my new boots.
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Last spring everybody started appearing with Vibram lifters on their alpine boots. They look just like the Lange bottoms and you could put them on anything.
 

Another option may be to soften my old boots, which are quite comfortable at this point & replace the lifters with the vibram sole plates.  Is this feasible & are they readily available?

Thanks,
JF
post #12 of 13
the lange vibram sole plates with  a little modification can be put onto pretty much any solid soled boot just like fitting a race lifter...for those doing this the lip which locates the plates on the recess in the banshee boots needs to be removed...this can be done using a heat gun and a sharp knife
post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by CEM View Post

the lange vibram sole plates with  a little modification can be put onto pretty much any solid soled boot just like fitting a race lifter

Yep, I've got race lifters on my old Lange's.  This may be a simple, cheap option for me.
Thanks,
JF
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