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Full Tilt Pro liners ?

post #1 of 9
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Before molding the liners, I would like to hear from people who have some experience SPECIFICALLY with Full Tilt PRO PowerWrap liners in Flexon/FT boots.

How tight is your shell fit? (I have about 10mm.)
How thin/thick were you socks during thermo-molding?
How did it feel after molding; and after some skiing?
Any lessons learnt or other recommendations? I am looking for performance fit, willing to endure some initial discomfort (but do not want pain).

Thanks


Edited by WaxFree - 9/2/09 at 8:00pm
post #2 of 9
5-15mm shell fit is fine

thicker is better  (to help pack it out a bit more with molding)

better with more time,   good to start with

go to someone that has done lots,  will really help to get  right the first time.
post #3 of 9
 thick socks? I don't get it. I use ladies' knee high nylons.  They don't pack out much, and the closer the fit the better. Generally, what you get in the shop after they cool is what you get.. they have no "break in" in my experience. That's one thing that makes them so great, that, and perfect overall fit, and warmth. I sure second getting an experienced fitter with these. It's important to get it right the first time
post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by Mr. Crab View Post

 thick socks? I don't get it. I use ladies' knee high nylons.  They don't pack out much, and the closer the fit the better. Generally, what you get in the shop after they cool is what you get.. they have no "break in" in my experience. That's one thing that makes them so great, that, and perfect overall fit, and warmth. I sure second getting an experienced fitter with these. It's important to get it right the first time

I thought I was the only guy using ladies knee high nylons as ski socks. I started using them some 20 years ago; biggest pros - never painful wrinkles, easy to get the boots on; biggest cons - need to make sure to dry the boot liners after a day of skiing.
post #5 of 9
  I just use the knee highs for the heat molding. And yes, with the toe caps, it hurts. For skiing, I've usually been using Smartwool's super thin socks. This last year with some pack out,  I've gone a little thicker- Smartwool and Bridgedale have come out with a fairly thin sock that's thicker only in the heel and shin- about time. Before they came out I was thinking of hiring some seamstress to make me some.... 
post #6 of 9
definately toe caps for the moulding, and as others have said make sure it is someone who has done it before, does it well and uses an oven rather than a heat stack...the heat stack doesn't get enough heat into the liner to mould it fully

if you don't get it correct first time you only have 2 more attempts before the liner will not shape properly!!!!!
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
 

Thanks for the replies. I will be using rubber toe caps and cooking the in raichle oven.

But I am not sure about are the socks. Originally, I intended to use thin ladies nylons during the molding. Mntlion is recomending thicker socks. Now I am scared that if I use nylons, I will end up with boots feeling like blocks of concrete during skiing and will have to remold. Is the Full Tilt liner much harder than Thermoflex?

post #8 of 9
the intuition liner that full tilt use is a little stiffer than the old thermoflex..... intuition supplied the original ones to raichle who then decided they could make the same liner cheaper...it wasn't the same but it was definately cheaper
post #9 of 9
thick socks will fill up more room, and help to pack the liner out more.   Toe caps will do this as well, but just for the toes.
For more DIY people they have socks, not toe caps...

either way, if the shell fit is right, and you mold the liners right, they will be fine,
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