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post #31 of 54
Lars, your on holler when you are going to be this way.  Think snow!
post #32 of 54

Here's a lovely view down from the Peak to Peak gondola.  And here's a view of the Gondolas in mid span:


 
post #33 of 54
Nice pictures, but skiers have shown a marked preference for lifts that actually lift riders from a lower point to a higher one. The peak to peak gondola is not a chair lift, not a lift at all really. Bestest traversing conveyance ever. You should start a list. The rope tow across the base of Alta would be another in that category.

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 I know that the criteria is best lifts in the Western US, but the Peak to Peak Gondola at Whistler / Blackcomb should be the top lift in North America.  It's 1,400 feet above the ground!  It's unsupported length is 1.9 miles!  One of the Gondola Cars has a GLASS BOTTOM.  What more do you need?

Northway at Crystal Mountain is pretty damned good too.  The seats are nicely padded.
 




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Here's a lovely view down from the Peak to Peak gondola.  And here's a view of the Gondolas in mid span:


 
post #34 of 54
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

Nice pictures, but skiers have shown a marked preference for lifts that actually lift riders from a lower point to a higher one. The peak to peak gondola is not a chair lift, not a lift at all really. Bestest traversing conveyance ever. You should start a list. The rope tow across the base of Alta would be another in that category.

 







 

And the poma at Vail to Two Elks Lodge.
post #35 of 54
I agree KT 22 is the not only the best chair in USA but maybe the WORLD!  Several ski areas under one lift, open bowls, bumps, trees, chutes, rock cliff and STEEPS!  The NUMBER 1 Lift KT 22, every thing else is second best!
post #36 of 54
Maybe it's me, but I'm not seeing a picture?????

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Here's a lovely view down from the Peak to Peak gondola.  And here's a view of the Gondolas in mid span:


 
post #37 of 54
Thread Starter 
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Yea, the Shortcut lift at The Crayons is cool, but I think 9990 is underrated, particularly the part where it goes up like an elevator, and you can watch everyone crash and burn underneath.

No love for Snowbird's Little Cloud? On a pow day it's just constant salivation.

 

9990 and Little Cloud did in fact get mentions in the Best of the Rest articles. http://tr.im/xZxP Funny enough, I was really close to putting Little Cloud in the top 10. I am also a big fan of that lift. The thing about both Snowbird and Jackson Hole is that the respective trams are such a big presence that the chairlifts can get overshadowed (although I did put the Quad at JH on the top 10 list anyway).
post #38 of 54
What was your list based on?. Are they supposed to be the lifts that you like to run laps on the most? 

Why didn't you include trams or gondolas? I usually prefer those to chair lifts.
post #39 of 54
Why?  You have to take your skis off.  That slows you down.  And you have to stand around breathing in other people's faces normally like you're on a subway car.

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Why didn't you include trams or gondolas? I usually prefer those to chair lifts.
post #40 of 54
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Maybe it's me, but I'm not seeing a picture?????
 


 
They were working yesterday. "Nice pictures" was one of my typical sarcastic jabs, the images weren't working when I wrote that, but by the time I posted it, they were fixed. Broken again now though.
post #41 of 54
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Why?  You have to take your skis off.  That slows you down.  And you have to stand around breathing in other people's faces normally like you're on a subway car.
 


 

The two best lifts in the west are the trams at Jackson and the bird. I like the subway, they build subways and trams from where most people are to where  most people want to go, fast. Taking off and putting on skis takes like 30 seconds tops. I like that the lifts are enclosed you arrive at the top slightly warmer which is a good thing. The social aspect of the tram is also a benefit IMO. Trams are awesome.
post #42 of 54
Trams are better than chairs for sure and gondis have their unique appeal. There are things you can do in a gondola car that you can't do on other lifts. 
post #43 of 54
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I agree KT 22 is the not only the best chair in USA but maybe the WORLD!  Several ski areas under one lift, open bowls, bumps, trees, chutes, rock cliff and STEEPS!  The NUMBER 1 Lift KT 22, every thing else is second best!


Can't argue that Dan but High Campbell gives you 360 degrees of terrain. It drops you off at a spot where you can air some drops into a 40 degree pitch  where you have several choices of snow conditions, bumps, powder, trees in 4 different directions. Or ski off a ridge to some hiking to the King about 15 minutes away. (longer depending what kind of shape you're in)

Maybe I'm biased. I've been on both in powder conditions amd cement too. It'd be a tuff choice.

I'd also like to add that I don't think Gondolas should be listed. After all, they're not really lifts.
post #44 of 54
The key words here are "most people".  That tells you something.  They build them for CROWDS.  I don't like crowds.  'splains why I ski where I don't have access to gondolas and trams....

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The two best lifts in the west are the trams at Jackson and the bird. I like the subway, they build subways and trams from where most people are to where  most people want to go, fast. Taking off and putting on skis takes like 30 seconds tops. I like that the lifts are enclosed you arrive at the top slightly warmer which is a good thing. The social aspect of the tram is also a benefit IMO. Trams are awesome.
 
post #45 of 54
 A tram might dump 50 people at the top of huge vertical every 15 minutes. Terrain accessed by a high speed quad will track out much faster. My bindings take more than 30 seconds to put on. I have left the summit of Jackson Hole after everyone else, and not seen more that two or three other people until after I got to the bottom of the Hobacks 4000+ vertical feet below.

Tram served terrain is not necessarily crowded in my experience.
post #46 of 54
Nice to see the JH Sublette Quad on there.  Getting lifted over the cliff band is pretty cool, although the lift stopped me over the cliffs for about 10 minutes once and I sucked about a yard of non-existant seat cushion up off the chair with my cheeks.  I like scoping skiers off the Thunder better tho. 

My favorite was the East Ridge double chair that you could make laps on Rendezvous Bowl on.  The Collins at Alta and the new Peruvian at Snowbird are high on my personal list too.
post #47 of 54
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The two best lifts in the west are the trams at Jackson and the bird. I like the subway, they build subways and trams from where most people are to where  most people want to go, fast. Taking off and putting on skis takes like 30 seconds tops. I like that the lifts are enclosed you arrive at the top slightly warmer which is a good thing. The social aspect of the tram is also a benefit IMO. Trams are awesome.
 

and not to mention it keeps the riff raff from getting to the top. I would rather wait a couple tram rides to get to the top where only a 125 a tram can get, than fight with hoardes that are coming off a high speed quad.
post #48 of 54
Go pact to Wags original article, read the rules  .  No stinky trams or gondolas.  Just not fair bringing a cannon to the knife fight.

Don't think I have ridden a tram at a ski area I didn't like.  Must do more research on this topic.  
post #49 of 54
 125! Oops, I thought it was more like 50, but still, I agree that trams are nice ways to get up a mountain for the reason you mention. I'll suffer a crowd in the car if the slope will be quiet as the smallish crowd disperses. I think the tram I rode at Jackson was slower and smaller than the new one, but I'm sure the new one is an E ticket ride despite those changes.

The point about warmth is a good one too. Imagine riding a chairlift that went as far and as fast as most tramways, you would be an icicle by the time you unloaded.

I'm sure the Peak to Peak Tram is an E ticket ride too, and you can ride it both ways! In the past, to get across that chasm you had to do the Spearhead traverse, which I hear is a bit of a slog.
post #50 of 54
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Go pact to Wags original article, read the rules  .  No stinky trams or gondolas.  Just not fair bringing a cannon to the knife fight.

Don't think I have ridden a tram at a ski area I didn't like.  Must do more research on this topic.  

You probably have not skied Ober Gatlinburg in Tennessee. They claim to have the world's biggest tram, which takes you from the parking lot to the base of the 600 vertical feet of ski terrain. 
post #51 of 54
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You probably have not skied Ober Gatlinburg in Tennessee. They claim to have the world's biggest tram, which takes you from the parking lot to the base of the 600 vertical feet of ski terrain. 
This is why more research is required on trams and gondolas in North America.  Very specific information is required. 

Now excuse me must go apply for the federal grant now. 
post #52 of 54
Hey - anybody see the new MSP flick Chairway to Heaven yet? That's some of the best chairlift riding footage I've seen yet! Man I can't remember when I've been so stoked to ride a lift this early! I ordered one of those"butt-flap" things the other day.
post #53 of 54
 Except for seven days last winter, I earned all my turns. Yer right, Jer, lifts suck.
post #54 of 54
Well, you know you can't publish a list like that without getting pummeled, right?  We used to call "American Flyer" the "American Freezer".  That lift sucks.  Even for the purpose of serving green terrain it sucks.  Lift lines are long, the lift itself has had some nasty breakdowns over the years, and overall it's a painful experience.  Having said that, Copper has some great lifts and I would have given Superbee the nod.  It serves mainly blues/blacks but as a single lift, it probably serves more acreage than any other lift in the country. 

I'm not sure 45 resorts are enough to write a top 10 list.

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Notable lifts that weren't mentioned:

Tiehack double (at Buttermilk). Long, slow and serves up one of the best views, the Maroon Bells. It also servers Racer's Edge, a super Masters DH venue.

Peak 8 Superconnect at Breckenridge. From the mid-load station it offers quick lift access to the South side of Peak 8 (a good place to wait for the T-bar to open) plus loaded at the base load station, it gets you quickly from one side of the resort to the other.


Nothing at Buttermilk ever could qualify as an epic lift.  Frankly, the only use Buttermilk serves is for mopping up the gapers for Snowmass and Highlands.  

And.. Peak 8 Superconnect is primarily a transport lift to move you around the mountain.  I'd rather ski off any other chair at Breck.
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