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post #271 of 415
12/9/09 at 5:45am
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post #272 of 415
12/9/09 at 6:17am
I like my forecast better;

Friday, Dec 11

High: 23 °F RealFeel®: 5 °F
Mostly cloudy, windy and colder with a couple of snow showers
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post #273 of 415
12/9/09 at 7:50am
A lot of moisture in this storm.  There are going to be wind holds today through out which will allow the steeper stuff to set up less tracked.  Early season storms with warmer soft snow make for great base and there is going to be soft snow later for a nice surface.  This is perfect.
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post #274 of 415
12/9/09 at 8:25am
How will the VT roads be on Wednesday? From Philly, I usually take NY Thruway/Northway to Ft Ann, 149/4 to 22A, North to 7 to 89 in Burlington to 100. If there's lots of snow on the roads, would we be better off taking 84 to Hartford and then 91 to 89? Using the awd Highlander. Look for you Sunday, Phil. 
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post #275 of 415
12/9/09 at 8:30am
I'll go with Rossi's temps.
It looks like we'll have a complex layer cake of fluff and frozen things. The liquid precip should only solidify the open and closed crystallized precipitation. This will result in a healthy base on which to conduct spirited operations. Ideally it will be topped off by a very white layer of open crystallized fluff giving a festive holiday atmosphere and making White Room demonstrations effective, but most likely we'll lack spectacular visual plumes due to lack of bright solar conditions. This also means that conditions underfoot will be both grippy and soft, loose and hard. Good edges are recommended but should not come near those necessary for a world cup race. Cold wax a better bet unless you want to ski uphill.
Everything is right on schedule once again to satisfy the guarantee!

This will be possible
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post #276 of 415
12/9/09 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by evansilver View Post
How will the VT roads be on Wednesday? From Philly, I usually take NY Thruway/Northway to Ft Ann, 149/4 to 22A, North to 7 to 89 in Burlington to 100. If there's lots of snow on the roads, would we be better off taking 84 to Hartford and then 91 to 89? Using the awd Highlander. Look for you Sunday, Phil. 
Sounds like a decent route. The question is always 89. If snow I prefer 100 from Killington/rte 4.
Plus, that takes you through Waterbury where I can go to Race Stock Sports.
I've never done the 7 all the way to 89.
Biggest issue on your route is probably that massive hill going into Rutland.
It's a tough call and depends on the up to the minute conditions. I've seen 91 closed due to icing at times, and at times it's better than the local roads.
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post #277 of 415
12/9/09 at 8:39am
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post

A lot of moisture in this storm.  There are going to be wind holds today through out which will allow the steeper stuff to set up less tracked.  Early season storms with warmer soft snow make for great base and there is going to be soft snow later for a nice surface.  This is perfect.

Great packing snow.  Perfect for base and snow forts!

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post #278 of 415
12/9/09 at 8:44am
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

I'll go with Rossi's temps.
It looks like we'll have a complex layer cake of fluff and frozen things. The liquid precip should only solidify the open and closed crystallized precipitation. This will result in a healthy base on which to conduct spirited operations. Ideally it will be topped off by a very white layer of open crystallized fluff giving a festive holiday atmosphere and making White Room demonstrations effective, but most likely we'll lack spectacular visual plumes due to lack of bright solar conditions. This also means that conditions underfoot will be both grippy and soft, loose and hard. Good edges are recommended but should not come near those necessary for a world cup race. Cold wax a better bet unless you want to ski uphill.
Everything is right on schedule once again to satisfy the guarantee!

This will be possible

I LOVE this!!!!!!  
I'm bringing my Progressors, but does a complex layer of cake fluff and frozen things justify having the Auras along?
I may bring them anyway, given that they are Tog's favorite skis and he was disappointed last year that he didn't get to try them!
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post #279 of 415
12/9/09 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

I'll go with Rossi's temps.
It looks like we'll have a complex layer cake of fluff and frozen things. The liquid precip should only solidify the open and closed crystallized precipitation. This will result in a healthy base on which to conduct spirited operations. Ideally it will be topped off by a very white layer of open crystallized fluff giving a festive holiday atmosphere and making White Room demonstrations effective, but most likely we'll lack spectacular visual plumes due to lack of bright solar conditions. This also means that conditions underfoot will be both grippy and soft, loose and hard. Good edges are recommended but should not come near those necessary for a world cup race. Cold wax a better bet unless you want to ski uphill.
Everything is right on schedule once again to satisfy the guarantee!

This will be possible
In other words....dust on crust.
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post #280 of 415
12/9/09 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by evansilver View Post

How will the VT roads be on Wednesday? From Philly, I usually take NY Thruway/Northway to Ft Ann, 149/4 to 22A, North to 7 to 89 in Burlington to 100. If there's lots of snow on the roads, would we be better off taking 84 to Hartford and then 91 to 89? Using the awd Highlander. Look for you Sunday, Phil. 

Go 87 to Rt 4 towards Rutland/Killington.  Then Rt 100 a little ways and go right towards Bethel on 107...  Then pick up 89.  This has become my fastest route to Stowe.  89 will be clear.  Actually all of the roads should be good since it's so warm.

Rt 100 is slow and it seems to take forever.
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post #281 of 415
12/9/09 at 10:05am
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In other words....dust on crust.
 

I skied my first tree lines of the season this morning... I wouldn't call the snow we are getting right now 'Dust'.  It's nuking on the hill, terrain is expanding quickly and the idea of poaching has gone from 'idiotic' to 'pretty dumb'.
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post #282 of 415
12/9/09 at 10:11am
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Plus, that takes you through Waterbury where I can go to Race Stock Sports.
 

I take it you've be there.  I'd like to hear you thoughts on the shop.  He has quite a reputation. He'd have a "hay-day" with me
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post #283 of 415
12/9/09 at 10:42am
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I skied my first tree lines of the season this morning... I wouldn't call the snow we are getting right now 'Dust'.  It's nuking on the hill, terrain is expanding quickly and the idea of poaching has gone from 'idiotic' to 'pretty dumb'.
Great to hear! That other description sounded "icy"!! I would rather ski my first 3 days of the season on soft snow than ice, or anyday now that I think about it LOL.
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post #284 of 415
12/9/09 at 10:48am
Thanks. I think I'll try this tomorrow. But it means I'll miss scenic Bridport and Addison (and a view of the Dacks if it's clear).
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Go 87 to Rt 4 towards Rutland/Killington.  Then Rt 100 a little ways and go right towards Bethel on 107...  Then pick up 89.  This has become my fastest route to Stowe.  89 will be clear.  Actually all of the roads should be good since it's so warm.  






Rt 100 is slow and it seems to take forever.
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post #285 of 415
12/9/09 at 11:18am
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.. the idea of poaching has gone from 'idiotic' to 'pretty dumb'.
 
so did you?
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post #286 of 415
12/9/09 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by evansilver View Post


Thanks. I think I'll try this tomorrow. But it means I'll miss scenic Bridport and Addison (and a view of the Dacks if it's clear).


 

This is a nice drive, though not as scenic.  You get a bit of 100 but not too much.

No view tomorrow - hopefully.  It's gonna snow
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post #287 of 415
12/9/09 at 11:56am
BOOM!  Stoweked!!!
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post #288 of 415
12/9/09 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Twintip View Post
I LOVE this!!!!!!  
I'm bringing my Progressors, but does a complex layer of cake fluff and frozen things justify having the Auras along?
I may bring them anyway, given that they are Tog's favorite skis and he was disappointed last year that he didn't get to try them!
Of Course you should bring the Auras - they match your pants!
Note the problem with this photo is the Hart slaloms do not match. They were however, better for the skiing at that time. Note that someone who looks like Bob is using the green Auras with an orange jacket.
I know, I know it's a nightmare! What to do? well, wear the pants and the Auras around outside the Trapp Lodge.



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Originally Posted by MattL View Post

In other words....dust on crust.
No, no, no....Really, such descriptions are totally inaccurate and pedestrian for the complex nature of the layer cake you will be skiing on. The first thing to remember is you're going to Vermont.You're not in Utah, Colorado, Montana, Wyoming etc.


Now, you could get this, but the cuisine of Vermont makes it difficult to cook with snow, temps, wind, sun all at the same time. One is usually only given their choice of one of those ingredients and the rest is a bit of a "train wreck" as the Aussies say. So you never quite know how the dish will turn out but it will be edible and could be very tasty!

Let's just say the standards for the cuisine are different in Vermont than those places. Don't forget, the conditions are guaranteed.:

Vermont Ski Conditions Guarantee
It will either be very icy with thin cover and cold or warm; it may be very cold with great groomed conditions; there is an equal chance there will be fresh snow and mid-winter conditions. The wind will range from brutal to non-existent. There could be non-crystallized precipitation.
 
Ski Vermont!!



See, the Snowlets understand!!
 
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post #289 of 415
12/9/09 at 1:24pm
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I skied my first tree lines of the season this morning... I wouldn't call the snow we are getting right now 'Dust'.  It's nuking on the hill, terrain is expanding quickly and the idea of poaching has gone from 'idiotic' to 'pretty dumb'.

patrol to me over on top the gondi today. "its way better over here I dont know why youd ski the quad today!!" hahahaha I <3 Stowe ski patrol!!

quick run down
. skinned up to the gondi side a couple times. 10-15 inches for swaths of runs couple hundred yard long easy fun drifts. not wet heavy, but heavy from wind which made it hard to get face shots.
Chin Clip = good to go in fact the top should still be good tomorrow
Gondiler = rightous as well
Nosedive = sick and no work
Nosedive glades =got my first face shot of the year but really really sketchy still better to just stay on trail.
Centerline - Haystack good soft crud as well not as good as the gondi slopes

also water bars at 30 mph on the run out is some of the best masochistic fun you can have! when I left at 3:30 still light snow at the base and moderate snow on top skied with some mags as well pics and video to come soon.
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post #290 of 415
12/9/09 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

I'll go with Rossi's temps.
It looks like we'll have a complex layer cake of fluff and frozen things. The liquid precip should only solidify the open and closed crystallized precipitation. This will result in a healthy base on which to conduct spirited operations. Ideally it will be topped off by a very white layer of open crystallized fluff giving a festive holiday atmosphere and making White Room demonstrations effective, but most likely we'll lack spectacular visual plumes due to lack of bright solar conditions. This also means that conditions underfoot will be both grippy and soft, loose and hard. Good edges are recommended but should not come near those necessary for a world cup race. Cold wax a better bet unless you want to ski uphill.
Everything is right on schedule once again to satisfy the guarantee!

This will be possible

no rain and not going to be any rain the next low pressure can pound us as well.
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post #291 of 415
12/9/09 at 2:09pm
 stair way to heaven



Dave milking the powder underneath the gondi



Some random tele guy



damn my video was super low resolution



Edited by BushwackerinPA - 12/9/09 at 2:41pm
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post #292 of 415
12/9/09 at 2:32pm
That does not suck!!
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post #293 of 415
12/9/09 at 3:21pm
Nice job by whoever was doing those snow dances.  Judging by time of posts, I'm guessing that was Trekchick.
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post #294 of 415
12/9/09 at 3:28pm
Quick question.  Is there a shuttle from Trapp lodge to Mansfield base area?  How often do they run?
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post #295 of 415
12/9/09 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Pandita View Post

Quick question.  Is there a shuttle from Trapp lodge to Mansfield base area?  How often do they run?

they do, you have to schedule it. Its is free of charge if you are staying there. straight from my roommate jessica's mouth she works there. say hi!! 
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post #296 of 415
12/9/09 at 9:48pm
BWPA, thanks for the timely answer! Was just trying to look into this with Trapp themselves, since my gf is just learning stick shift . Trapp never got back to me, but I'll make sure to ask when we check in Friday night. That's really good news!
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post #297 of 415
12/10/09 at 12:31am
 Whew, what a week! 
I's are dotted. T's are crossed, bags are packed, skis are waxed, and I'm ready to fly out this morning......Heck, with the storm we had yesterday I'm thrilled that my flight's not cancelled or delayed!

Who's meeting up at the Lounge Thursday night?
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post #298 of 415
12/10/09 at 2:11am
I will try to get there TC....if not, bright and early FRIDAY
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post #299 of 415
12/10/09 at 2:57am
 I hate being "fashionably late", save some tracks for me. 
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post #300 of 415
12/10/09 at 5:47am
 You know, when I see the words Phil and Fashionable in the same sentence.....
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