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post #121 of 143

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That's how I was taught at Berchtesgaden in 1956.

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That's how I was taught at Berchtesgaden in 1956.


Right here....

 

:Ott

post #123 of 143
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Ah yes--we certainly can't wait several years to have a celebration. There's plenty to celebrate now!

 

By the way, Kevin, your math was a bit more precise than mine, but less accurate! By your calculations (and mine), it would be 12.7-ish years from the time the thread was posted until Ott completed his billionth turn (leaving aside, for the moment, the ongoing debate about exactly where and when a turn actually begins and ends!). I won't quibble with your "249 days, 15 hours, 6 minutes, and 40 seconds" figures (although I must ask if you accounted for leap years). But, at least in Colorado, I'm pretty sure that 2002 plus 12 years would be 2014, not 2015. 

 

;-)

 

So, we must prepare for the celebration on October 17 2014. (Like I said.) But why wait? I say we celebrate every turn. (But not necessarily with its own Manhattan.)

 

Best regards,

Bob

 

PS--Kevin--I was just watching some video from Stowe last season. Man, you made some AWESOME turns!

So, this thread is 11 years old and next year will be the one billionth turn by Ott!

(if no one is there to see him turn, is he still turning?)

Has anyone spoken to him recently?

 

post #124 of 143

He posted in the Sigi thread that I bumped for Throwback Thursday a few weeks ago. 

Check his post history. :)

post #125 of 143

Well, facebook alerted me that Trekchick posted on this thread and rereading some of it made

me fell nostalgic....

 

Thanks for the old wedeln footage, just think if those guys had modern equipment.

 

Austria started to dominate competitive skiing with what was called the "comma" position, a racer

in slalom would no longer have to bank and by breaking at the hip, like wedeln, could get much closer to the poles.

 

....Ott

post #126 of 143

Hey Ott! Thanks for checking in. Will you be skiing this season before the new year?

 

Came across this thought you might like it. Love the first 30 seconds.

 

http://youtu.be/tN1YTI5GZCk

 

And Ski School in Austria in 1960's. Snowplow. Brief shot of a very pretty Ski Instructor

 

http://youtu.be/vZ0X_BlwtOs

 

Hansi 2013:

 

http://youtu.be/vBLxzv17zc8


Edited by Tog - 11/21/13 at 7:45pm
post #127 of 143

Hi Tog, it depends on the snow conditions around here, we usually ski before Christmas, but who knows. We haven't given a thought about giving up skiing yet even though Ann is 80 and I am 81, after all, skiing is not very hard.

 

All you folks are so much fun, though I haven't seen a controversial poster, or have missed him/her, those were always interesting. And yes, Hansi can still whip 'em around, you really never lose the feel for it.

 

....Ott

post #128 of 143

Dreaming of a John Mason, Scsa, max501 reunion?

At two manhattans a piece + 1 for the group, you'd definitely be three sheets to the wind.

 

Here's a very short odd one. It seems the term "wedeln" is often not near your level. I've seen some pretty bad stuff called "wedeln".

 

http://youtu.be/9vSOYL-N1ig

post #129 of 143
I can't watch the Ski Twist enough.! Never get tired of seeing it. I guess that speaks volumes about me and carbon dates me as a skiing dinosaur. I think Hansi is a great skier that can rip. Former World Cupper so he's the real deal for sure.
post #130 of 143
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I can't watch the Ski Twist enough.! Never get tired of seeing it. I guess that speaks volumes about me and carbon dates me as a skiing dinosaur. I think Hansi is a great skier that can rip. Former World Cupper so he's the real deal for sure.

 

I'll second that emotion!  Thumbs Up

 

His fashion choices are a little too Elvis for my taste, but his skills are superb. On piste, off piste, he is in total control and free to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. That is some really beautiful skiing, and something to aspire to!

post #131 of 143

Hansi Hinterseer dresses as the huge European superstar singer he is with his own TV show and many concerts God forbid he should cover his blond locks with  a hat or helmet. The Ski Twist has been recorded by him many times over the years, check them on YouTube.

 

auSo there are no more SCSA or John Masons causing controversy here? Isn't it getting dull without them, but personally they are good people when you meet them.

 

....Ott

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auSo there are no more SCSA or John Masons causing controversy here? Isn't it getting dull without them, but personally they are good people when you meet them.

 

Someone comes to mind. Now who might that be? Hmm...   ;-)

 

This is such a great thread! Came across an old Sports Illustrated article online that touches on wedeln - thought I'd post a link and give it a bump...

 

http://si.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1133620/3/index.htm

post #133 of 143
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auSo there are no more SCSA or John Masons causing controversy here? Isn't it getting dull without them, but personally they are good people when you meet them.

 

Someone comes to mind. Now who might that be? Hmm...   ;-)

 

This is such a great thread! Came across an old Sports Illustrated article online that touches on wedeln - thought I'd post a link and give it a bump...

 

http://si.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1133620/3/index.htm

 

Informative article for those of us who missed this part of ski history.

post #134 of 143

Been a while since I've looked at the SI Vault. Should have posted this link - it has pages and pages of illustrations, starting on page 98...

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19571223&mode=reader_vault

 

Click on "Show Thumbnails" and slide the bar till you see a skier in red sweater to get there quickly.

post #135 of 143

Ott, is this Wedeln?

 

post #136 of 143
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Been a while since I've looked at the SI Vault. Should have posted this link - it has pages and pages of illustrations, starting on page 98...

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19571223&mode=reader_vault

 

Click on "Show Thumbnails" and slide the bar till you see a skier in red sweater to get there quickly.

 

That article with its very specific illustrations provides excellent instruction.  Good for Sports Illustrated!  Did you notice how many pages there were in that issue?  Amazing.

Where can we see that kind of specific instruction today featuring today's turns on today's skis?  Skiing's print media does not provide it.

How-to-Ski books fail us too; most use photos almost exclusively.  Hand-done sequential illustrations are much better at breaking down and clarifying specific movement patterns.

If you are skeptical about the superiority of line drawings over photos in this case, think back to the last instruction manual you had to use that only provided photos.

I suppose photos are cheaper and quicker to work with than drawings. 

post #137 of 143

JC-Ski, thanks for the bump!  It's been a while since I saw @Ott Gangl who is the only person that was immortalized as a smilie.  Much more dynamic than PSI-Man.

post #138 of 143
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Been a while since I've looked at the SI Vault. Should have posted this link - it has pages and pages of illustrations, starting on page 98...

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19571223&mode=reader_vault

 

Click on "Show Thumbnails" and slide the bar till you see a skier in red sweater to get there quickly.

Much better. Without the illustrations it's fairly tedious. Plus interesting to see the ads of that time for skiing.

post #139 of 143

I just noticed the skier on page 112: 

 

While skiing down the bumps on a powder day, nothing goes down as smooth as a Camel!

post #140 of 143

He also has a martini in his right hand. Shaken, not stirred. Natch.   ;)

 

Ah, the good old days!

 


Edited by jc-ski - 4/24/14 at 11:41am
post #141 of 143

tdk6, looks like wedeln. It is easier done now with the new shaped skis, less up and down. Essentially, in wedeln you ski down the fall line keeping your upper body still and square and do the side to side swing from the hip down allowing a fast edge change. It is also done with feet close together, four inches or less is good, if you try wedeln in a wide stance, getting both skis out to the side quickly is problematic and both skis will not be on equal edges.

 

...Ott...nice to be here now and then, I hope everyone had a great season.

post #142 of 143
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Originally Posted by Ott Gangl View Post
 

tdk6, looks like wedeln. It is easier done now with the new shaped skis, less up and down. Essentially, in wedeln you ski down the fall line keeping your upper body still and square and do the side to side swing from the hip down allowing a fast edge change. It is also done with feet close together, four inches or less is good, if you try wedeln in a wide stance, getting both skis out to the side quickly is problematic and both skis will not be on equal edges.

 

...Ott...nice to be here now and then, I hope everyone had a great season.

 

Ott, thanks for stopping by and your comments. I really enjoy these new skis but contrary to many others I still see the value in old school technique. Like the narrow stance, stemming, active weight transfer and up-unweighting to initiate parallel turns. The wedeln in particular I think has held its value well over the years because we still have bumps and try to nail that zipper line.

post #143 of 143
Thanks for this, really enjoyed this thread and even joined the site because of it... Wedeln was what I grew up thinking of as good skiing and still pretty much do to be honest...
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