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post #31 of 38
A lot of you want to divide ski technique into two categories, carving and skidding with anything else supposedly a combination of the two. My point is that is too simplistic which leads to possible misinterpretation of what others may be doing especially when they are advanced skiers. -David
post #32 of 38

Are we REALLY "more in a rush to carve" than our Euro counterparts?


No, carving is a "given" in the toolbox of the Euro skier.


The song remains the same. 97% of skiers don't know how to get their money's worth from their skis. It always has been this way in America, the land of the quick-fix, the home of instant gratification, the country of the charlatan.

As Andre Agassi once said in a commercial for Canon cameras,

"Image is everything."

Most skiers I know have no interest in learning to carve, because they don't emulate racers.

We could hyper-intellectualize this feature of the Average American Skier, but IMHO it boils down to superficiality and laziness.

post #33 of 38
We have noticed that a lot of skiers don't have a clue on how they should ski. They seem to feel that what they are doing is correct. You can tell some people but unless they realy want to improve, they are not going to lessen. Buddy's and I have often commented while riding the lift that there must realy be something to keeping your up hill hand behind you, because so many people do it. They must know something we don't. Can we be doing this wrong. [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Ho well, its gives us something to laugh about while we're on the lift.
post #34 of 38
smithby "lot of skiers don't have a clue on how they should ski. They seem to feel that what they are doing is correct."

Of course because very few intermediate or novice skiers ever get to see themselves on video. Even novice skiers can recognize smooth rhythmic skiers on the slopes around them but they have little inner perception of what those advanced skiers feel to do such. I've been occassionally pointing camcorders at people since they first came out and most skiers I've shot are quite surprised when they see themselves for the first time. The reaction is usually not very positive. I think for a minor percentage of people as certain atheletes or say dancers an awareness of body position is much more readily understood. -David
post #35 of 38
On the Euro side of things: I've had lots of lessons with ski school in Austria, Switzerland & France. NONE of them talked about edges or carving. They were all keen on the 'bouncy' turn made by unweighting (sorry if I don't know the technical term for it). Sometimes on a particularly flat bit they would suggest trying to get the skis on edge to feel what it was like, but that's considered an optional extra.

This season I coughed up for private lessons. Last week I _finally_ found out what it's like to carve at speed down a steepish well-groomed empty piste (the red down from Caron for those who know the 3 valleys). It was GREAT! I want to go back and do it again NOW! How can you say people think it's more effort? It was the easiest seeming skiing I've ever done!

HOWEVER... put me on something steeper & narrower with more ice and bumps and I'll be skidding turns again. My instructor would prefer me to control my rate of descent by letting my turns continue round & even up the hill if necessary, but if there isn't room or if I would still be too fast for my ability & comfort levels, there's NOTHING WRONG with deliberately skidding in order to brake. This made perfect sense to me. Applying the brakes deliberately in order to slow down is a perfectly logical thing to do. What's silly is to try and speed up with the handbrake still on...

As I improve I'll hope that I can choose to carve on more and more slopes.
post #36 of 38
I read a very common theme here. People don't know that "carving" is the way to ski and that "slipping and slidding" is not. The other day I was with a competent level 5 skier and demonstrated and asker her to use her ankles and knees to put her skiis on edge and let the skis do the turning for her. Her comment was, "when I do that I "cut" into the snow". She thought that was wrong. At the end of the lesson, she told me she had never felt the "acceleration and wham (her words)before".

I've seen many people that have been very content to ski with skiiding and sliding get introduced to carving and are now out practicing the thrill of carving.
post #37 of 38
Hi Frances,
Just out of curiosty, Which ski school in the Three Valleys did your Instructor come from?

post #38 of 38
dave_SSS, Sorry I didn't respond sooner, I have been away skiing for a while.
I see a lot of gold pass holders that need to take lessons. They have all that money, always new equipment, but never learned how to use it, yes, I'm jealous. At least I know how to use my equipment.
I wish there was some easy way to make people understand how easy it is to carve. When the skis do the work, the driver doesn't have to. Skiing becomes so much easier.
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