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What merits a helicopter rescue? Thumb injury?.......hmmmmm, NO!

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
 Saw this and thought.......wonder what the Bears would think...
No Helicopter rescue for hiker with thumb injury

I have two primary thoughts(can't risk more than 2 in my blonde brain)
  • This guy is a wuss.  Heck, I broke my wrist on a mt bike ride and rode out three miles.  Tyrone Shoelaces got hit by a truck and rode it out.  This guy tweeks a thumb and wants a helicopter.  Can you say DRAMA QUEEN!
  • The rescue team missed a chance to smoke this guy on a huge bill for minor rescue......."Yes sir we'll be right there.  Can you give me your CC #?"

Sooooo, what do the Bears think?
post #2 of 21

Edited by comprex - 8/18/2009 at 09:47 pm GMT
post #3 of 21
Yeah, my first thought was, depends on the trail conditions....  and the second thought was, depends on what else is going on...  third thought was, did they give him a price quote?  I mean, maybe they tell him in their opinion it won't be covered by insurance but here's the number of a private helicopter service that might be interested.

I mean, what if he can't grab some rock because of the thumb and he falls off the trail because of it.  Then what?
post #4 of 21
Well I am 50 and I would figure out how to downclimb that with my busted thumb before I would let someone call for a rescue.
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Edited by comprex - 8/18/2009 at 09:48 pm GMT
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
 Pwdhnd, Mr TC is 52, and I'm betting he'd pick his way down/out before calling for rescue as well.
post #7 of 21
Oh thanks, I feel much better now.  Just drop me off over there on top of that virgin peak over there
post #8 of 21

If you go out in the woods , you should be aware that something might happen.  Just because you can call 911 does not give you the right for something that frivolous. 

Fine his ass till it hurts more than his thumb.  You don't have the right to endanger others because of your discomfort.
post #9 of 21
Still have a spare thumb/hand, two legs and 4 fingers on the injured hand. I find it hard to believe anyone would need a heli for that kind of injury.

Strap it up and get to it!
post #10 of 21
Bad judgment to use a high risk transportation method to evacuate a non-life-threatening injury.

What if the crew got in trouble and perished on the way in or out?

More than stupid.

post #11 of 21
Well, now, let's not be too hasty to judge.   It could be hard to walk with a thumb up yer arse.
post #12 of 21
My two cents.

If the thumb injury resulted in loss of circulation with little to no profussion and alignment of the thumb did not improve the condition, then the patient may lose his thumb if there was no blood circulation.   Personally I  have never seen this condition with a thumb injury.  I have seen this with dislocated shoulders a number of times but not thumbs. 

With complete loss of circulation to the thumb, I personally would ask for a helicopter.  I may not get the medevac but I would ask. Your thumb is half you hand.  Without your thumb you can not grip objects.   This would all depend on local medevac protocols which seem to change every few months in my area. 

Loss of sensation and/or motion in the thumb would not warrant a helicopter ride in my opinion. Suck it up buddy and walk out.
post #13 of 21

The injured individual, asked for public help -called 911- the first responder (a conservation officer) made the decision of what type public help was available to be used for that injury. If the help offered was unacceptable to the injuried individual, then that individual should have called a private ambulance for the service they wanted.
Of course he/she would be totally responsible for the call, the cost and the results.
I believe both Texas and New Hampshire are both in the U.S.. Our system of healthcare allows for this type of action, of course it can get quite expensive, depending on what and whom is asked for. But that's part of the cost of freedom of choice.

post #14 of 21

Stating the obvious, but NH gets a LOT of people this time of year; with enough boo-boos you're bound to get some outliers inhow people respond.  The newspaper reporting can in fairness also not capture exactly where they were physically, either...sometimes.  It's fascinating to me, though, because I've seen chi chi women who are definitely not into roughing it deal with painful injuries (ACLs, shoulders, etc.) very stoically, and psuedo-rugged types who talk a good game babble worse than a 5 year old learning to ride a bike. 


Cognitively, the guy may never have done anything physical, may never have felt that discomfort, may have viewed the woods as stressful, and so may have been in a version of panic.  Thumbs can hurt a lot.  So what...MAN UP!   A good rule of "thumb" is if you're walking around comfortably, not spurting blood, can remember where you live and don't seem punchy, and on a trail, walk TF out.   

I think the moral here is that stoic chi chi women are hot...sorry, got distracted, what was the focus again?

post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
 Nice 1000th post CTCook!

I aspire to be a stoic Chi Chi woman.  
post #16 of 21
The producers of Man vs Wild might want to consider hiring this guy as a one episode fill-in for the vacationing Bear Grylls......
post #17 of 21
Last time I broke my wrist I kept skiing and got it casted out later.
Last time I may have broken my thumb, I kept skiing and decided not to wait out the 15 hour wait in the E.R. later.  That thumb still isn't as strong as the other one, but it's getting there.
post #18 of 21
The problem is too much cell phone service. People don't depend on themselves they just make a call from the middle of the wilderness now. Take some responsibility.
post #19 of 21
Gotta love the idiots that come up here... I remember a similar incident occurring a year ago near Mount Washington.
post #20 of 21
Wow!  I can't believe that guy actually thought they'd send a helicopter for a thumb injury!  It didn't affect his legs so why couldn't he walk out the same way he walked in?!  How stupid!  I've skied with stitches in my hand from an injury I received the morning of my ski trip - the good thing was, they had my hand so bandaged up, I didn't need to wear a mitten on it!  It was a little difficult holding onto the ski pole though. 

That guy just needs to "Suck it Up!!"
post #21 of 21
Originally Posted by Snowbowler View Post

The problem is too much cell phone service. People don't depend on themselves they just make a call from the middle of the wilderness now. Take some responsibility.

You hit it squarely.  Up in Banff talking to some guys with Search & Rescue.  Their call outs have gone way up mostly caused by people climbing and getting in way over their heads, knowing they could get on the cell phone for a bail out. 

This type of behavior is not just bad, it should be criminal as public endangerment.
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