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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
 I race during the winter for school in the east on crummy PA mountains.  I'm not overly serious about the racing and also want a good all mountain ski for a couple trips out west (Alta, Snowbird, Vail).  I can only afford one pair right now and I'm looking for a ski that can do both.

I'm 6'0'' 175 lbs.

Have any recommendations?
post #2 of 17
Yikes.

Total shot in the dark here, I'm thinking just tank the racing entirely?  Having said that, I'm thinking that my former racer daughter really loves the Aura, that the Aura is the female version of the Mantra, so maybe the Mantra?  It really is not a racing ski and would get you laughed off the course, though.  Who are you racing for and are they USSA races?  There are equipment rules you have to meet if so.
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
 Sibhusky,

The racing is more of a social thing for me, that is why i do it.  I'm a pretty good skier however and do a fine job on the course.  There are no regulations regarding gear and all.  I have skied the Mantras before and I love them.  But I was also in deep pow at Alta and the Bird.  I feel like with the Mantras that I wont be able to really hit the course.  I still want to be competitive out on the course though.  I was thinking something on the lines of the AC50s or Scott Missions.  What you think?

I go out West every year so I still want something that can hold up in powder.

Thanks
post #4 of 17
I picked up a pair of Dynastar Contact 10s at the end of last season and think they are a pretty good all-rounder with an on piste bias.  Although I never took them out in powder, other bears have said (or the prev years Ltd & 11) they are ok.  They aren't the fast race ski out there, but I would rather run a course on these than AC50s or Missions (although to be fair, I have never skied either). 

Not sure if you are racing GS or SL, but you can pick up decent older model GS skis for pretty cheap- might want to consider one of these combined with a wider used ski in decent shape as opposed to trying to do everything on one ski.  If you get good deals, you might spend about the same as 1 pair new and have much more range in your quiver.
post #5 of 17
I just can't imagine a ski able to negotiate the blue ice of a PA slalom course and not blow out of the course AND able to float in the powder.  I bow to the greater authorities here to help you. 
post #6 of 17
He never actually said 'slalom' though?

I expect we'll hear from the Blizzard Magnum folks pretty shortly.
post #7 of 17
Yeah, I can't tell if he's doing NASTAR or what.  What kind of skiing for school in the East wouldn't involve USSA equipment rules?  I thought even the USCSA stuff was mostly USSA races. 
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
I raced with the Dynastar Contact 10s and was not wild about them.  They were terrible in powder and i was all over the place in the moguls (even in the east).  Too stiff for my liking.
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
I am mostly doing GS...
post #10 of 17
I really like my Dynastar Mythic Rider.  Great stability at high speed (Slow speed turning is meh) on the groomed runs, likes GS turns.  Great in powder if you have a good length like 178cm or larger.  Not quite soft enough for the moguls, but you're big enough to power through the bumps. If you want an All-mountain ski you'll have to give up something because there is no ski that can do everything. 
post #11 of 17
BustorDie I think you are looking for the impossible. No ski made today I am aware of will do double duty of GS racing and still float in deep Utah/Colorado Powder.I would recommend looking for two used pairs of skis(to save on total costs). One for local GS racing and East Coast Hard Pack. A second  much wider pair suitable for deeper softer snow. You can leave the Race Skis home for your Western travels. Good luck with your search.
post #12 of 17
Wow!!  Like Sibhusky and JMD have said, that's a tough order to fill.

If you are set on 1 pair of skis for racing AND powder AND bumps, then you will have to compromise on all sides.  There may be a ski that can "do" everything you are asking for, but not a ski that will do everything well.

As has been suggested already, you could look for a pair of cheap used GS skis for racing and supplement with a pair of fat boards for your western trips.  A pair of used GS skis will perform much better in a GS course than any 90+ ski ever can.  However, if your involvement in racing is really just for recreation, then you probably don't need a dedicated racing ski.

If you can only go with a 1 ski quiver for everything, then my suggestion would be something in the 85 - 95 mm range under foot.  It will do OK in a GS course and handle bumps and powder OK.  Any fatter and you will be sacrificing in the course; any narrower and you will be sacrificing in the powder.

Good luck!!
post #13 of 17
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I expect we'll hear from the Blizzard Magnum folks pretty shortly.
LOL, sorry...traffic.. The 8.1 or 8.7 are indeed viable choices, they ski like wide GS skis with turn radius's in the "upper teens". 
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by huhh View Post

I really like my Dynastar Mythic Rider.  Great stability at high speed (Slow speed turning is meh) on the groomed runs, likes GS turns.  Great in powder if you have a good length like 178cm or larger.  Not quite soft enough for the moguls, but you're big enough to power through the bumps. If you want an All-mountain ski you'll have to give up something because there is no ski that can do everything. 

agree totally. this ski must be ski'd faster. If you want short, slow turns, its not going to be the best. It also feels stiff.  I liked it alot for freeskiing, and it did well on an epic pow day for a non pow specific ski. However, if i was with my kids, or intermediates it would not be close to my first choice.  Id like to get this ski back out on a crud day, in open territory when im feeling good.
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post



LOL, sorry...traffic.. The 8.1 or 8.7 are indeed viable choices, they ski like wide GS skis with turn radius's in the "upper teens". 
 
Second the above from Philpug....
post #16 of 17
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agree totally. this ski must be ski'd faster. If you want short, slow turns, its not going to be the best. It also feels stiff.  I liked it alot for freeskiing, and it did well on an epic pow day for a non pow specific ski. However, if i was with my kids, or intermediates it would not be close to my first choice.  Id like to get this ski back out on a crud day, in open territory when im feeling good.
I love the MR's in most everything - it can handle anything with aplomb. If you want to go slow(er) however, the 8k is the weapon of choice.
post #17 of 17
 I would try the Nordica Jet Fuel 84 under foot or the Hellcat? next fatter model of the same ski.  The JF is very stiff and makes a good GS turn.  I used it as a one quiver ski in JH for 2 seasons.  It isn't the best in powder or bumps, but it works.  It's good on hardpack and crud.  It might be ok as a GS racer if you aren't too serious about winning.  Good luck finding 1 ski to do everything well.
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