Originally Posted by apeyros
I was really hesitant to start this thread over at TGR (nobody wants to get JONGified for no reason) but I do believe there is a need for it so I started it here.
There are quite a lot of options in the R/R field and quite a lot of reviews of those skis but I haven't really found any comparative data.
So if you have skied any two or more of the following skis please feel free to post comments and share this experience with people. It'd be really interesting to see how they differ when compared to each other and not to traditionally shaped fat skis.
P.S.: the list of R/R:
1) Lotus 138
2) Praxis PowderBoards
3) Donner Party
7)any other R/R I forgot to mention.
These skis are significantly different. In-fact the terms used to describe the skis can cause confusion and arguments. To put things in prospective;
Not all of the above skis are reverse camber and reverse side-cut.
Most current skis avoid a continuous reverse camber and reverse side-cut as manufacturers try make the skis more useful on firmer snow.
The skis listed are intended primarily for soft snow such as powder, crud and corn. The skis are much easier to turn and stop in deep snow than a conventional ski, so I think they improve safety. However they do encourage higher speeds which can lead to issues if the run has many hazards. The skis work well on very steep slopes. They are also great on low angle powder runs, they don't sink and stop the way that a 90 to 105 mm wide conventional powder ski can.
I own 3 fat skis, the 194cm Fischer Watea 101, Volant Spatula and the Praxis Protest. The Watea is a great powder ski, easy to use, great float and very good on hardpack. This ski is much better at resorts than the R/R skis, even on an epic powder day.
The Praxis protest has some positive camber under the bindings and a little side-cut, its dims are 132-137-130-131-124 . Both the Praxis and the Volant are easier to use in powder than the Watea (and the Watea is easier to use than almost any normal ski this size). The R/R skis swivel underfoot easily and feel like a slalom ski. These skis allow me to sit upright without tip-dive, so I don't exhaust myself sitting back. These skis can stop on a dime. More like using a snowboard in powder than normal skis.
The Spatula is best on very steep slopes and in the trees, It's easiest to turn quickly, but is less stable at speed. The ski has a continuous negative camber and you will feel like your standing on a saucer on firmer snow. It has a huge amount of negative camber, so it wants to turn and does not like going straight. If trees are involved, there is no better ski made.
The Praxis is new to me, but I expect it to be more stable at speed but less quick to turn. It may need more care in changing snow, say when going from from sun-crust to fresh powder. It should float better in smoke-like-powder, it's wider and has a lot more surface than the Spatula. This can be good or bad, the Spatula will provide face shots, the Praxis might not.
The Watea is very good also. More stable than the Spatula but more difficult to turn than both the Praxis and Spats. The Watea is really soft flexing, It floats like mad but is not super solid in crud or funky snow.
Hope that helped.Edited by WILDCAT - 8/2/2009 at 09:05 pm GMT