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The kid from hell!

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Having read Epic's post on his kid group, I had to share this one. I don't do kids but on a Holiday weekend we all "do our part".

As I started a short turn follow the leader drill the seven year old behind me screamed as she was pushed to the snow, as did the next few followers. Little "Mischie" announced that "My mommy says that I AM SPECIAL and I am ALWAYS to lead, NEVER to follow". At that point the little tyrant would peg any kid that tried to get near me.

Every request for some harmony was met with "what the hell, you are a bore and this is stupid".

At report card time, I tried to tell mom that to tell her daughter that she was the Alpha was not in the best interest of the class ....... her response was that "You did not sufficiently challenge her". (Heavy Russian accent.)

What do you do with a kid like this?

1) Hose down a black and after it freezes, "challenge her"?

2) Smear her with honey and let the Bears have at her?

3) Duct tape her to a chair and put her in a revolving holding pattern for the duration of the class?

All creative suggestions welcome! [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #2 of 17
3 sounds good. I don't know what it is about being in front, but there is often some kind of a scramble for the front going on in p. 1-3 no matter what I do. Today, I had a little girl that was pushing on my butt telling me to go faster all day while the other kids kept falling behind. Then I'd be stuck whenever I stopped because she was between my legs. I was tempted to conjure up a fart for her. Knowing the properties of gore-tex though, I'd probably have suffered more than her.
post #3 of 17
Well, sounds to me like she was one of those people who needs to be duct taped to a chair and cussed for approimately 1 hour. THEN ice a black diamond and challenge her. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #4 of 17
This thread should be titled "The mother from hell!" I hate seeing parents pass on their lousy elitist atitudes to their children.

That's a great idea, Disski. It usually solves the problem. But, the moment any student acts agressively toward other other kids in the class she should be removed from the class by a supervisor or the director and delivered back to the parent with the instuction that she will be allowed back into a class when she is mature enough to be with other children. "Normal" parents often get the message. I feel the ski school is also negligent toward the other kids in the class if it allows an agressive student to stay.

As for "not challenged enough", we had one of those on the second day this week. The mother insisted that her 7 year old was "bored" in what happened to be the highest level class we had going on for the five days. Our director took a run with the kid, acknowledged to the mother (who had been a pain in the Goretex about a couple of other things that morning also) that the boy was a very good skier, certainly able to ski with the class he was in, which happened to be working on just the very balance exercises that he needed to become a really GREAT skier. But, we would certainly be happy to upgrade his program to private lessons for the rest of the week if she felt that would be more beneficial. Apparently the mother didn't feel the difference in price was cost effective. Once she backed off the kid had a great time for the last three days.

Some parents are really embarrassing and you feel bad for the poor kid. Yesterday at 9:38 I had a women bithcing to me that her son's (9:30) class left without him, while the poor little kid stood there looking mortified. I took him up the hill to meet his class. What I really wanted to do was say something like "No, lady, you got here late. Howcum the other five kids didn't get left behind?"

But I didn't. At that point the kid didn't need any more embarrassment.

[ December 31, 2002, 06:20 AM: Message edited by: David7 ]
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
David and disski:

I never thought of putting her at the rear of the class. My work with kids has been limited to a few privates with the four to seven group.

Any and all tips for that "bag o' tricks" ....

This is one kid I hope we never see again since she upset my nine other "special" kids.
post #6 of 17

Make the rear of the class an honored position.
I always referred to it as "ski patrol".Let them know that as ski patrol the job is to yell "wipe out" when someone falls.
This is a huge help to the instructor when skiing with a large group. It is less likely that you will leave a fallen child behind inadvertently.

Everyone wins!
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
We do have a junior instructor to keep up the tail end of the group.

This kid did everything but swill cheap whisky and spit tobacco!

post #8 of 17
You probably tried it Yuki but

Our guys often tell the kids they need to pick the 'best skier' to bring up the rear & make sure that the others don't get lost. Takes care of the 'I'm the fastest' ones & many others - just adjust the criteria for the back marker. Of course it helps that they start in littlies classes with an instructor front & rear - so LAST is important looking.
post #9 of 17
David7: I couldn't have said it better myself or as nearly as good. You can't be afraid to be the one in control or there will be no
post #10 of 17
I apologize to the instructor that had my twin 4 year old nephews in their class this past weekend. They were horrid! The instructor all but said they were not welcome back. The next day I guess they were somewhat better. Momma gave them quite the talking to but boy oh boy are they a handful! :
post #11 of 17
Now I know after all these years that I made the right decission not to teach. A nice trip through the trees and loose her in a tree well would be my suggestion. Or, I know some snowboarders that for the right amount would run her over. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]

I'm only kidding folks!!!!!
post #12 of 17

When siblings are in the same group, it is usually a receipe for disaster. Next time you take them to ski school, let them know that if they can seperate them into different groups, their instructors would probably have an easier time.
post #13 of 17
JohnH your are right! Part of the trouble is the twin thing. They egg each other on, thinking that are are so very funny. Rather like two drunken frat brothers! We did say that they could seperate them but for some reason people want to see the twins together. The next day we told whoever would listen TO seperate them but they did not.
post #14 of 17
A couple of weeks ago I had an interesting lesson. A pair of identical twins and a set of triplets. This was in a level 1, it was interesting to see how much further some progressed than others.
post #15 of 17
Kind of beating a dead horse here, but I also find with a group of kids it is best to put the fastest one last and the slowest one first, however even this isn't perfect, as the kids tend to get out of line. That comment about making the last kid the "ski patroler" is great, I'll have to try that.
post #16 of 17
have her be the most special person in the group by making her the only girl you shove over the doubbleblack mogul run
post #17 of 17
Originally posted by JohnH:

When siblings are in the same group, it is usually a receipe for disaster. Next time you take them to ski school, let them know that if they can seperate them into different groups, their instructors would probably have an easier time.
That's what we intend to ask the instructor this coming saturday
(concerning our two sons). They're not twins (15 months apart)
but live in symbiosis. The other problem is that they're approximately the same level (one is stronger, the other more technical) so they end up in the same class every time.
Trouble is, they fight each other (aka, they do compete amongst themselves for supremacy, like every brother).
This past saturday, a bevildered instructor consigned back the children to me with" Ah, are they brothers?? I did not notice, they did not tell me, and continued to fight each other (also hitting each other with poles on their head)" .
My answer: "that's the reason they wear helmets"
Needless to say, I had a nice chat with the two devils, at home.

As for being last in line, instructors here have adopted the tactic to rotate children position, so every one is first
at least once during the lesson. But, usually all the children love their instructors, and tend to listen to them more than to their parents...
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