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I've been recently informed by our insurance carrier that we can no longer teach any type of lessons in the half-pipe without first being certified by a qualified organization. I know that PSIA RM is holding freestyle accreds, but I'm not sure what that really means for half-pipe, specifically. My region currently has no means for ALPINE to become certified, that I know of (snowboard does). I can certainly do some sort of "in house" certification myself, as I feel that I have more than enough experience in the tube to do it, but I don't think "experience" qualifies anymore.

Any other SSD's out there having this problem? Instructors, do you know of or have you participated in any sort of half-pipe specific training that would qualify as becoming "certified"? Where/When?

I ask because on a hill where there are very few terrain options for experienced skiers (particularly kids), the half-pipe has proven itself to be a fun, safe, teaching option for people who are becoming tired of the same old drum of "being taught" and want to try out what they've learned on something new. I, for one, feel hamstrung by this new "rule", as I have run plenty of clinics in the pipe with interested instructors and shown clearly what should and should not be done in a lesson. This simply is not enough I guess. It's unfortunate because many of the kids that come to my mountain come from the local schools and have skied and boarded with us for a few seasons already. The pipe is the hi-lite of their day!

I feel that we run a tight ship with regards to the pipe. Any loop-holes in these policies? Any ideas on what can be done short of sending all my instructors to a free-style accred?


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Why not have an examiner/trainer accred, or whomever is doing the accred for a division, come to you for two days?

We had a similar situation at some point last year involving our "terrain park". I can't remember the outcome. Robin would recall. I have never been in our terrain park and I've only ventured into our pipe once. I felt a little stupid at age 48 doing so!

I imagine if I felt stupid I can only imagine how I looked.

I actually talked with Robin for quite a while this morning.
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I've never met an instructor, PSIA cert 1-3 who could properly ski a half-pipe. I'm sure they felt they were doing themselves and their students a service, but it looked like a trainwreck to all the skiers and snowboarders watching. No etiquette, no skill, no nothing. Until you guys learn to start calling dropping, stay the **** out!
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PSIA-E has develped a "Freeride" certification for skiers. I understand Mike Nick and Jason Levinthal (from Line Skis) were involved in that. Maybe it's time for the other divisions do the same.

post #5 of 6
Rm has a new accredidation as well.


Yes your right. There isn't a single instsructor who can ski a half pipe. You guys who hang around "the pipe" are setting all sorts of etiquette standards". It sounds as though your a veritable Emily Post of manners yourself.

You might give some consideration to laying off 'the pipe" prior to posting.

Better yet....you need to go to your room junior.
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Bakerboy. I'm not even remotely in the mood to read the opinion of some dyed-in-the-wool local pipe grub with a chip who gives me answers that are no help. I see more than a few of your cohorts (at various areas) with zero steeze and even less courtesy. I also know more than a few instructors (levels 1-3) who would bury 90% of the pipe riders out there, so go kick rocks.

JD. Thanks. I'll research that a little and see what I can come up with.

Thanks Rusty. I haven't called Robin in a while. Maybe it's about time I did!

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