One ski town for the rest of your life? - Page 6

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Originally Posted by Stranger 

Going to Utah and complaining about the Mormons, isn't that kind of like going to Italy and complaining about the Catholics?  They are good people by in large even the missionaries.  

 

I am not LDS but spent a lot of this past years in some very small Eastern Utah towns, one had 3 Methodists and 1200 Mormons.  Spent some interesting evenings discussing religion with some of their missionaries; they were cool. they knew I would not convert but they enjoyed sharing their religion with someone who was interested.  The kids behind the counter at McDonald's are pushier.  

 

Think about it, if you are complaining about their religion what does it say about yours?  Utah is cool and so are their people, if their religion is that big of a problem to you go ski the Bible Belt instead.  I thought most of us went to Utah for the skiing.

Your post implies that Utah belongs to the Mormons and anyone else who goes there is an intruder.  Being apprehensive about living in a region where the mores of a particular religion are prevalent does not mean you have anything against that religion or the people who practice it.   

On a broader note, as someone who has considered relocating to Salt Lake City at some point in the future, I've spent a lot of time soliciting the views of non-Mormon Utah residents.  The feedback is decidedly mixed.  It ranges from people who have no issues whatsoever and have never felt unwelcome to people who have had to move to different neighborhoods because they and their kids became ostracized after being courted by the LDS and refusing to convert.  

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Originally Posted by chraya 

Your post implies that Utah belongs to the Mormons and anyone else who goes there is an intruder.  Being apprehensive about living in a region where the mores of a particular religion are prevalent does not mean you have anything against that religion or the people who practice it.   

 

On a broader note, as someone who has considered relocating to Salt Lake City at some point in the future, I've spent a lot of time soliciting the views of non-Mormon Utah residents.  The feedback is decidedly mixed.  It ranges from people who have no issues whatsoever and have never felt unwelcome to people who have had to move to different neighborhoods because they and their kids became ostracized after being courted by the LDS and refusing to convert.  

As stated before we have been living in Utah for about 5 years now, so my views are somewhat limited and may differ from others. 

When we moved here from Cincinnati, our #1 priority was to find a Catholic school for our 2 kids because of the research we did as well as what we heard from others.  We were cautioned that it would be the toughest on Elementary/Jr High age children who are not LDS ... that they would likely be shunned for not following the same religious beliefs.  Our children ended up attending Catholic school for the first 2 years, then switched to public/charter schools.  Fortunately, they have not encountered anything that we were cautioned about (either in school or in our neighborhood).

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Well, I get that where I live in the PNW, too.  Pretty much anywhere you can find a pair of young men in white shirts and ties.  Sometimes a group will meet for lunch near where I work.

 

Not just Mormons, often Jehovah's Witnesses will make the rounds as well.

 

So, it seems the consensus is that it doesn't make much difference in whether to move to Utah for either retirement or employment close to skiing and/or snowboarding. 

 

But what should we do about the people who post that it is a negative?    Ridicule them for their intolerance of polite friendly people in white shirts and ties? Should we shun them?  Throw snowballs at them?  Bwah ha ha.

Eh, I guess. I spent many years elsewhere and can't recall having that happen, and definitely not with the frequency it happens with here. Not a reason not to move here, but it may be a regular part of the routine. And it does get annoying.

Actually, we had a ton of people ringing the bell in New Jersey with bibles in hand, but I think it was the type of neighborhood, not the state.  It was a townhouse development and it was easy to hit a lot of places fast without that much walking.  Same (but much worse) problem at Halloween.  People would drive in from the more rural areas and dump their kids.  

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Originally Posted by sibhusky 

Actually, we had a ton of people ringing the bell in New Jersey with bibles in hand, but I think it was the type of neighborhood, not the state.  It was a townhouse development and it was easy to hit a lot of places fast without that much walking.  Same (but much worse) problem at Halloween.  People would drive in from the more rural areas and dump their kids.  

LOL, I know the feeling. It's not townhomes, but it is a relatively tight group of homes in one of the nicer neighborhoods of town. The same thing happens with the kids on Halloween, and we get people knocking on our door trying to sell all kinds of things. I suppose it's extra annoying because I work at home. I've become one of those creepers that peers out the blinds to pre-screen.

Now I live in the woods and get ZERO kids on Halloween!!  And certainly no preachers.  

In response to all the flack from my posting, believe it or not, I am a DIRECT decendent of Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon religion.  I have absolutely nothing against Mormons. I've known many, while living in Bozeman. I only said you would feel a presence, which was not intended as a racist remark by any means.  Mormons live in Utah, as well as other states. So for all who read my posting, accept my aplogies if it came across that way. It was not my intent, whatsoever. 

You are all lucky living in North America. There are plenty of options.

I grew up in Wanaka, NZ- which is about the only ski town in NZ. It was a cool place to grow up, but the ski season is just too short to justify living there all year round. Summer is awesome there too, but when its not winter I would prefer to live somewhere else. (Somewhere which is not 80% male pop'n). Not to mention there seems to be less snow every year. 

Trying to find a way to migrate to Canada asap and get out away, but that is proving very difficult currently.

Bozeman. For a small city there is a real skiers vibe here. All kinds of friendly people-decent jobs (Oracle/Right Now is a big player), culture, good restaurants, great independent ski shops, a major University, close excellent skiing, and great hiking/fishing/biking in the Summer. And I like the 2.00 bus ride up to Big Sky! 

We also have an amazing library http://www.bozemanlibrary.org/

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Originally Posted by cal to colorado 

Bozeman. For a small city there is a real skiers vibe here. All kinds of friendly people-decent jobs (Oracle/Right Now is a big player), culture, good restaurants, great independent ski shops, a major University, close excellent skiing, and great hiking/fishing/biking in the Summer. And I like the 2.00 bus ride up to Big Sky! 

 

We also have an amazing library http://www.bozemanlibrary.org/

Yes, all skiers thinking of moving to Montana should look no further than Bozeman! It's really the only place worth considering.

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Originally Posted by volantaddict 

 

Yes, all skiers thinking of moving to Montana should look no further than Bozeman! It's really the only place worth considering.

Really? I always thought Sidney was the place to be. Should I cancel my appt with the realtor?

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Originally Posted by AustinFromSA 

 

Really? I always thought Sidney was the place to be. Should I cancel my appt with the realtor?

Well I suppose anywhere East of the Continental Divide is fine, just stay clear of Missoula, that place sucks!

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Originally Posted by volantaddict 

 

Yes, all skiers thinking of moving to Montana should look no further than Bozeman! It's really the only place worth considering.

Thanks for that. I feel so much better for making my choice!! 

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Originally Posted by cal to colorado 

Thanks for that. I feel so much better for making my choice!! 

I do try to be helpful..  

St. Anton, if I could speak French it may be Chamonix, or... if it could count as a ski town (which it isn't really), Geneva.



Lukas

Juneau AK or Terrace BC oh nvm, you dont want to be seperated from the world.

Bozeman is so 20 years ago.  I'd say Sandpoint, Idaho.  But then again, no, forget it.  Too crowded now

Jackson, Wyo

 -  Polski  -

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Jackson, Wyo

Having made my first trip there last week, I have to concur.  Unbelievably beautiful, enough terrain to keep you interested for years, and an easily accessible airport from which you can get to Denver, Dallas, and Salt Lake hubs.

Jackson should be high on any ones list.  I made my choice right after college and unfortunately at the time {80),  they're weren't too many women there.

Guys,

At every ski area I have ever worked at or skied at ,

  Good ......................no ..............ANY women have been in short supply.

The term BYOB (babe) certainly applies.

So ,  the ski area is usually a bad place to try and meet that certain someone ...............Its best to go for the best ski area you can find.

BUT .if your a woman ..........................a ski area can be the biggest ego boast you could possibly find .

 - Polski -

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Originally Posted by sibhusky 

I dunno, my daughter always felt that saying, "The odds are good, but the goods are odd." applied. Many of the guys in ski areas suffer from Peter Pan syndrome. Face it, it's not your typical demographic mix.

LOL!

I'm slightly odd, but gifted.

Not all ski area's are equal in that regard either.    I meet my wife in Aspen and 25 years later,  I still think I scored big time.

Were else would you want to meet your wife?

I think Mormon people are just fine, no problem  at all.  I have heard from friends that it can be difficult for kids in school.  Being a social liberal, I find the political climate here (Utah not Park City) can be a bit overbearing.  But I find with the influx of "outsiders" things are getting better.

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I already have a husband, so don't need a wife..

I have a husband, too, but I think I would also like a wife, so she could do all the things I am supposed to be doing while I am skiing instead. There must be some correlation to the great skiing in Utah and, well, you know....

I would have chosen Niseko, but then the Aussies came.   Maybe somewhere in Europe.. it's just sooooo big and there's a lifetime of skiing without crossing your own tracks repeatedly. 

since I don;t know Hokkaido or much about the northern Honsu... but they're on my 'go' list

Salzburg

Innsbruck/Sankt Anton

Garmisch/Partenkirchen

Interlaken

Treviso

Verona

Bormio

Bergamo

Torino

Anncey/Chamonix

Grenoble/Albertville

Banff

Vancouver/Squamish

Boulder

right where I am, now... it's a ski town because I make it so...

life is 3D

Jackson, yes but what about the cost of living there?  My nephew's wife, who is a realtor there, sent a book of real estate listings....wow!  I think I saw a garage listed for 800k. This was on the low end of things. 

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right where I am, now... it's a ski town because I make it so...

Nice place.  Surf town, ski town only with your own airplane?