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Where to go mid-November?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
hello epic people

I'm looking for somewhere to go for a week or so in mid-November - give or take a week.

I was thinking Soelden because it seems to be a more snow-sure possibility than elsewhere in Austria.

I'll be driving and my start point is Maastricht (nr. Cologne) - so up to about 10 hours drive would be OK - to put that in to perspective, Geneva is a comfortable 8.

I am not too keen on France for personal reasons.  i.e., I hate the french!
post #2 of 10

Leaving aside the fact that we try not to do "hating the xxxx" or "yyyyy" here, I should issue the standard disclaimer that mid-November skiing is awfully dicey in Europe. Yes, there have been some great early seasons (even last year, for instance), but more often than not, you're talking either manmade snow or glacier (and that's a bit late for glacier skiing, in some places the glaciers will already be closed at that point). Days are short and visibility, if it's not sunny, is not great. On the other hand, you can get in just about anywhere (assuming hotels are open) at the last minute. Offhand, I'd wonder whether Saas Fe wouldn't be nice-ish that time of year. Or Zermatt, of course.

 

Alternatively, wait and see who gets early snow, keeping your eye on the usual suspects like the Arlberg resorts, Andermatt, etc.

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
Believe me, the "hating" the French is very much tongue in cheek - no such emoticon visible..., I've spent the last 6 years living in a francophone area - I just fancy heading east as opposed to south.

I do realise that it'll be dicey, but medical reasons dictate it must be November.

I shall look forward to other suggestions.
post #4 of 10

Well, beer is better than wine, it's been proven in scientific studies (ongoing, conducted in my kitchen). So heading east may make sense.

 

Mr Nobody could probably fill you in on Passo Stelvio, where it would actually be late season already that time of year (if not actually closed). I've heard that autumn conditions can be excellent there. Saas Fe would be my bet, though.

post #5 of 10
Can't see any reason not to leave it to the last minute. Keep an eye on the Autrian glaciers and see what looks good. I can't image any problems getting a hotel late.

I agree that beer is superiour to wine, and would therefore also argue for Austria over Switzerland in order to get better and cheaper beer. I would also point out that I find the beer in Tyrol better than the beer in Salzburgerland. I'd say all signs are pointing towards Stubai.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by ami in berlin View Post

I agree that beer is superiour to wine, and would therefore also argue for Austria over Switzerland in order to get better and cheaper beer. I would also point out that I find the beer in Tyrol better than the beer in Salzburgerland. I'd say all signs are pointing towards Stubai.

Beer is good. And better, cheaper beer is better than, well, less good and more expensive beer. I think we have an ethos here.
 

 

 

post #7 of 10
Mid November is too late for Stelvio in Italy, too close to the regular winter season. Tipically the season closes there atthe beginning of November (in 2001 it was Nov 4th, as an example)
Only place where they might be open in the Italian region is Tonale, which has "Glacier" and "normal" runs.
It could well be that in November the Gran Paradiso (the run which coems "down" from the Glacier to the pass) be open, making for a nice ski back to the hotel...
Ah, but here too, wine is better than beer :-) , so, I think you better head for Austria..tee heee

Seriously, most glaciers are close at that time of the year...as Mr. Prikly says, you better wait a bit and moniitor the situation, then take a last minute...
post #8 of 10

Having lived here a long time, I've found that wine will do in a pinch. Had a lot of pinches over the years, as it turns out.

post #9 of 10
Soelden is safe pick. Of course for Rettenbach glacier, not for lower areas. I'm normally in Soelden for last week of October (WC opening) and until now, there were almost always great conditions. Mid November means just about 2 or 3 weeks later, so having snow down in Soelden is in 99% out of question, but conditions on Rettenbach are normally even better, not worse, then on end of October.
So my choice would be either Soelden or any of my other two favorite Austrian glaciers... Moelltaler glacier or Kaprun.
post #10 of 10
Also worthwhile keeping an eye on the higher non-glacier resorts as well. Obertauern may well be fully open (although I have to admit not being very fond of the place). Obergurgl is quite high, right? And it has the advantage of being just down the road from Sölden. Sportgastein is a high elevation sector near Bad Gastein, although probably too limited for a week. Then again, I'm not sure anywhere is going to be extensive enough for a week, and it is just on the other side of the tunnel from the Mölltaler glacier than primoz mentions.
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