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post #31 of 35
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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post

Looking at the video and reading the feedback gives the impression that bump skiing is a world of its own. IMO its not. Want to get better in the bumps, improve your overall skills and then apply them in the bumps. Basicly bumps are nothing else than uneven terrain. IMO the OP should not continue to ski bumps to get better in the bumps. He should work some on his basic technique and then go back into the bumps. The reason he is stuck is because he has reached some limit of some sort. I have notissed over the years as an instructor that skiers tend to "specialize" thinking that even though they are no good at lets say bumps they still can ski powder and so they do just that and they want to take lessons to improve doing only that. Fact is that good skiers are good at all kind of terrain. They might not know it. Ive come across lots of such skiers. Mostly women. They are usually quite modest, they take lessons and pay attention and ski a lot of easy terrain. But they many times lack ambitions and currage. Something their fathers, brothers, boyfriends and husbands are full of. It might be easier to nail that forward stance and having the tips of the skis pressured and turning on a regular groomer first. But such advice will not take you very far even on a flat groomer so start thinking about even more basic things. When I see the OP skiing in his videos I see a person that is 100% dependent on the moguls to make his turns. This limitation makes a disturbance in the flow. Im not saying its no good because there is no one right way of skiing bumps or anything else for that matter. I simply suggest the OPs selfe claimed limitations are not necessarily bump related.

tdk6 - 

I do not agree with your analysis (at least in my own case) that inherent limitations in skiing abilities and technique drive what type of skiing people enjoy and pursue further.   Why bother skiing if when we are weak or deficient at something instead of seeking to improve we just give up?   I enjoy bump skiing for a number of reasons, the variety, the challenge, the addictive repetition...and thus I want to become better at it and ski more of it. 

As you have picked up on, I'm a completely self taught skier.  I'm certainly not opposed to relearning some of the basic points and skills of skiing.  However, because my technique was developed without formal or professional training, I have little ability to teach myself those finer points of skiing technique.  Therein lies the reasons for which I made this post.  Can you offer suggestions on what skills to work on and what drills i can utilize to teach myself some of the basic skills on which may help me on all terrain as well as in the bumps? 


...and thanks again to all who have posted...I'm pumped for the snow to start flying!
post #32 of 35
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Originally Posted by Mac View Post

We can always find something that we can improve in our skiing, especially after looking at ourselves on video, but that's some pretty nice skiing, IMO. Where was that video taken? It looks familiar.

Both of the videos were taken at Mt. Sunapee...2008 ones on the front side (steeper) and the 2009 ones are on the back side (flatter).
post #33 of 35
 First off, I wanted to say that it's sooo great to finally talk to people who appreciates bump skiing. sometime back, I asked a question about boot mounting position for bump specific skis. Well, I got answers like 'do people still ski moguls ?' or 'get a life and buy park skis'. That just totally deflated me.
It seems that the biggest trend is park specific skiis, no question. You have a hard time even buying mogul skis anymore.
The only thing that kept my spirits up is that I hang with a gang that does nothing bumps. We compete locally and push each other. Sure we travel through the half pipe occasionally but we don't stay there all day and hike back up. It seems like my friends that have a cross-over ski ( 'freestyle' but not a mogul specific ski ) don't do as well in the bumps but can throw wicked inverted and rolls.My analogy is that all specialty skis have to compromise somewhere on the mountain. My advice to you is to buy bump specific skis and stay one dimensional and be proud of it.
post #34 of 35
 Thank you so much PomfretPlunge! That last post was all one needs to know about mogul skiing. I like how you go through certain problems and how to fix them. Thanks a ton.
post #35 of 35
Glad ya liked it :)  Let's set the record straight -- the stuff I write is basic-basic stuff for newbies 'cause that's all I am.  To really learn bumps, you gotta go to the people who really know and have been skiin' 'em for years.

All I can do is kindof share thoughts/experience based on what I've been learning, and try to get it down clearly.  One problem is that trying to be clear can get pretty darn wordy.  So I babble a lot but I have lots of fun.  If I babble, please just ignore.  If useful, that's great!

BTW my earlier posts don't say much about mogul turns.  I'm starting to learn some bits & pieces of those now that the season has started.

Don't you love all this cold weather? Awesome & hope it lasts.
Edited by PomfretPlunge - 1/4/10 at 7:08pm
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