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post #91 of 101
Guys..I sure wish you would use the ISO sizing when referencing different wheel sizes.

For instance a "29er" is just a 700c road wheel diameter = 622mm ISO

A normal 26" mtb wheel = 559mm ISO

And the "650b" size, which was around before WWII = 584mm ISO

This is the tire bead seat diameter. No more confusion
post #92 of 101
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I'm dreaming of an El Bastardooooo......
 



http://www.competitivecyclist.com/mountain-bikes/review-frame/Ventana-El-Bastardo_588.html
post #93 of 101
 All this talk about 29'ers, 69'ers, 96'ers, and more......

I've been riding a few times with a friend on a 29'er, and have switched bikes with her a few times.
These are the sensations that would take some getting used to...
I'm not as comfortable cornering on the 29'er.  Maybe it was this particular bike, but it felt like it had a tendency to wash out from under me if I really got after it in the corners
Getting the thing going.  ugh, it takes a new skill and some patience to get those wheels rolling.

Is this me or is this a normal feel from a 29'er?
post #94 of 101
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 All this talk about 29'ers, 69'ers, 96'ers, and more......

I've been riding a few times with a friend on a 29'er, and have switched bikes with her a few times.
These are the sensations that would take some getting used to...
I'm not as comfortable cornering on the 29'er.  Maybe it was this particular bike, but it felt like it had a tendency to wash out from under me if I really got after it in the corners
Getting the thing going.  ugh, it takes a new skill and some patience to get those wheels rolling.

Is this me or is this a normal feel from a 29'er?
 
622mm......

Tire selection is a greater variable than wheel size in what you are describing. If they are using a smoother center section for rolling speed you'll have less grip...everything is a trade off.
post #95 of 101
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 All this talk about 29'ers, 69'ers, 96'ers, and more......

I've been riding a few times with a friend on a 29'er, and have switched bikes with her a few times.
These are the sensations that would take some getting used to...
I'm not as comfortable cornering on the 29'er.  Maybe it was this particular bike, but it felt like it had a tendency to wash out from under me if I really got after it in the corners
Getting the thing going.  ugh, it takes a new skill and some patience to get those wheels rolling.

Is this me or is this a normal feel from a 29'er?
 

29er do not corner as well because of couple different reasons.

Biggest IMO
1. Long wheelbase needed to fit the larger wheels
2. sometimes a High Center of G, some 29ers have lower bottom brackets to combant this.
4. Tire contact patch will be longer and narrow than a 26 contact patch which will be the same size but it will be shorter and wider. A 29er has more brake traction/pedaling traction than a 29er but will have less side to side grip there.

was it front tire wash or back tire wash? also what tires and where they tubeless?  On any Mountain bike the widest tire you can run that will fit on your frame is the fastest. Also the lowest pressure you can run tubeless with out stripping the tire of the rim is also the fastest.

After riding for a couple years now at sub 25lb of PSI I cant ride other peoples tubed bikes. The friction of tubes compressing and rubbing against the tires is way slow, the bike feels bouncy on all but the smoothest trail and the cornering just sucks!!! The easiest way to get people on tubeless bike is to let them ride a tubeless bike.
post #96 of 101
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post


622mm......

Tire selection is a greater variable than wheel size in what you are describing. If they are using a smoother center section for rolling speed you'll have less grip...everything is a trade off.
 

not really fast rolling XC tires are most likely slower overall than honking huge big side knobs tires all around. Who cares if it feels faster while pedaling? it probably is. the issue you loose more time in the corners to the fringe of XC guys.

http://www.leelikesbikes.com/are-freeride-tires-faster-than-xc-race-tires.html

in fact this is most likely number 2
post #97 of 101
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

Nah, ^^^^ that just says "DUI". You should flip the handle bars up, then it would scream "second offense!".



... i'm just kidding (same with the Newfy comment). Ride what you like.
 
It does on the road, but I think it just says crazy on the trails.  I don't care too much.  At least I'm riding.
post #98 of 101
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post

You should lace up a couple of Pantour hubs and try it FS.
 


 

I would love to do that.  I'm putting it on my "to do" list, right under "pay off credit cards".

I guess I would have to do something about the brakes too, with the wheel moving up and down like that.  Discs?  


Edited by Ghost - 7/4/2009 at 02:47 pm GMT
post #99 of 101
Pantour front hub = $139.00
Pantour rear hub = $299.00

Set of rims = $100+

Wheel build = $75ish

Soooo... $613.00+ to 'upgrade' to 1/2" of 'travel'. That makes sense.
post #100 of 101
I'm moving the  Raliegh GP -  Pantour Hub down below "Buy real front-suspension mountain bike for $500." on the to-do list, right after do restoration on antique Chevy Wagon, which is after buy bindings for GS skis.

It's time to hammer in that pin on the crank and go for a bike ride.

Later,
post #101 of 101
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I'm moving the  Raliegh GP -  Pantour Hub down below "Buy real front-suspension mountain bike for $500." on the to-do list, right after do restoration on antique Chevy Wagon, which is after buy bindings for GS skis.

It's time to hammer in that pin on the crank and go for a bike ride.

Later,

 

Ghost. It's OK for you to ride that antique off road.  I've been riding this one on road quite a bit lately.
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