In defining Stowe's Goat an average steepness black diamond
run when deprived of bumps, I am just looking at the average
pitch reported by the very same ski resort, i.e. 34 degrees.
I did not ski it: too narrow and too bumpy for a 6'2", 220lbs
guy on 190cm shaped skis with stiff tips and tails.
I skied the other 3 of the famous four, though.
It is true that, in general, the average pitch does not
always tell the truth, but I can find walls 100 yards
long even in Minnesota or Wisconsin where the average
pitch is in excess of 40 degrees.... it is the sustained
pitch that matters, but that was not the point.
What I meant is that depriving Goat of its bumps (and
with bumps it is really difficult) takes away its
"legend". Same is true of other classic runs around
the country. Those have built their history
on bumps and such should be left. Plus, I would like to see,
first of all, how one can use a winch cat on Goat and, if
they could groom it, how can they perhaps split it in
half-groomed and half-bumps given the narrowness of the upper part of the run.
However, the real problem is that I do not see why some people
should complain so much about grooming. I repeat, I ski a
lot and in many places: I almost never find corduroy on
black or double black diamond runs. If you know of real
black runs and double black runs that are without some bumps, please let me know, for I would really like to try them.
I agree that blue runs here and there are smooth, but I have never seen snowcats attacking them every 2 hours to take
away the bumps. At one place I found bumps even on the
bunny hill!! In my opinion there are not enough groomed
runs and not bump runs. Every bowl is bumps
Splitting the runs in halves seems to me the most democratic
way to go. Plus, the fact that in this section of the forums
most seems to like bumps and are against grooming means nothing.
The skiers who hate bumps, and they are the majority, do not
even bother to enter this section of the forum, so much they
hate even the word "bump".
I am a Midwest skier, the poorest of "poor" skiers: we don't
have the Rockies and we do not even have the mountains or
hills of the Eastern US/Canada and we have to make good with
what we have and it ain't much. So, when we have a chance
to go either West or East, we know that we are going to
have fun anyway, with bumps or without bumps.
[ November 08, 2002, 03:51 AM: Message edited by: MauSki ]