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Beartooth Pass 6/13/2009

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We had some good skiing-both at the hike to Gardiner Headwall, and lapping the Red Lodge Summer

Race CampDropping into the second half of GH-pretty runneled, but skiable due to steepness

 

Above-Gardiner Headwall off the BT Highway

 

 

Good Corn Below the Cornice Line

 

 

The chute we skied most of the PM

 

 

 

Two high speed Pomas-the upper one really rips and is great for lapping some pretty steep terrain-the lower is mainly for the terrain park where most skiers/boarders were

 

My neighbor/ski buddy/tele ripper Cag took some great action photos-happy to see my self on camera enjoying the day! Left out the back seat cornice drop!!

 

 

Go as big as you like

 

 

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Almost summer skiing... Cool!

JF

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Great report!

 

Way to get out there and turn 'em.

 

Thanks for the inspiration.

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Thanks Bob-skiing in June was great-I really enjoy the history at the Summer Race camp as well-one of my best ski buds used to run gates here in the '70s--while being grilled by the Austrians-he has a very funny story of showing up on his K2 Cheeseburgers, skiing in jeans (lost luggage) and winning the slalom

 

 

a couple of more

 

 

Where you buy your ticket: 25 bucks for a half day-plenty of skiing considering how fast the Poma is-and how the snow turns to mush in the PM (not to mention PM thunderstorms)

 

 

looking down the Poma line-pretty good steepness

 

 

Winch cat-they groom daily

 

 

Gardiner-about (totally guessing) 2k verts down=and 1k verts hike back to the road-the middle shot to the right of the "Hourglass(with the choke point) is where we took our first run--easier low angle slope to the right with visible tracks looked to have had better snow-but much shorter vertical

 

Actually the run we were on was very runelled/sloughed-but pretty steep-so one could get it going turnwise

 

Not worth a second round on that day (for me anyway) the race camp had much better snow without the 20 minute hike to the top-especially on Alpine gear-but free is good

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Originally Posted by cal to colorado View Post

We had some good skiing-both at the hike to Gardiner Headwall, and lapping the Red Lodge Summer

Race Camp


Two high speed Pomas-the upper one really rips and is great for lapping some pretty steep terrain-the lower is mainly for the terrain park where most skiers/boarders were

 

My neighbor/ski buddy/tele ripper Cag took some great action photos-happy to see my self on camera enjoying the day! Left out the back seat cornice drop!!

 

Cal - I wish I knew that was you skiing the chutes on Saturday.  That is our crew standing on the cornice waiting to drop in (I'm the 2nd from the left).

 

We were there with a few J3 - J4 racers from Saturday to Saturday and had a total of 7 days on snow.  The early mornings were really nice as each night it went down to 30 - 35 degrees.  The snow did soften up by lunch, but we usually had the course down by then and put on the fat skis for an hour or two of free skiing.

 

What a great place to get some summer turns in.  The headwall has some really nice lines from 40 - 45 degrees, and as you said, you can "go as big as you like".  We estimated the cornice at skiers far left at  about 25 - 35 feet.

 

The owner (Joe) was very accommodating and made our 1st camp there very enjoyable.  We will most likely be back next June for another camp.

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Richie–Rich your glass of water analogy is erroneous but I take your point to be once the base is saturated then it’s saturated. But the base material is never saturated until the wax has penetrated the entire 1.4 mm thickness which I believe would not happen.  A better analogy would be to think of the ski base as an unpainted wall. The first coat of paint covers, but much of the paint is absorbed and thinly covered areas of the wall can be easily observed. The second and subsequent coats of paint are also absorbed but less so with each application and the appearance of the wall improves until more coats of paint will not make any observable difference in the color or texture of the surface. How many coats are enough?
Most experts (self proclaimed and otherwise) seem to agree that you can’t wax and brush a new or freshly ground pair of skis too many times. Each wax and brush cycle polishes the depth of the base structure smoother than the one before. One can conclude that there will be a diminished return on each successive wax, hotbox and brush cycle. In other words the improvement to the potential speed of the base will be most apparent after the first wax/hotbox/brush cycle and each subsequent cycle will add some speed (wax) but less so each time.
Dave Peszek wrote in SKI RACING magazine “Top technicians, like the USST's Jeff Butz, will wax giant slalom and slalom skis at least three times before the skis ever touch the snow, and speed skis at least 10 times.”
If 3 or 10 waxing cycles are enough for the USST then it’s a reasonable outside limit for anyone reading this forum. Since hot boxing is just deluxe hot waxing I invite you to draw your own conclusions.
I always let my skis return to room temperature overnight while still inside the hotbox. I believe that most composite structures react poorly to abrupt temperature changes.
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^^^^^Is that posted in the wrong thread?????

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Nice TR CtoC...
Always nice to see Beartooth Pass in whatever condition, a very pretty area......
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