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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

 Hey Epic Skiers,

 

While shopping for new skis, this site kept popping up, so I figured I should get some advice from you guys.

 

I started skiing a few years ago, but really got into skiing this past season.  I've been using so-so rentals from my university's ski club, so I think it's time that I upgraded.

 

About me:

6 feet tall, 165-170 pounds.  Have been skiing 170s which seem like a good length for me.

I'm comfortable skiing blacks on easy mountains (Stratton, Jiminy) and can get down moguls and glades if I take my time.  I'm from the Northeast US so conditions are usually icy.  I'm really looking forward to skiing a lot this coming season and getting better as I do.

 

I tried looking around on a few sites, but wasn't really sure what I should be looking for in a ski.  Any advice on what I should look for in a ski or any specific reccomendations on skis?  I'm looking to spend less than $600.

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 11

Welcome to Epic, Stonge.  Others will chime in here, but I think that we will need some more information.

 

What terrain do you prefer to ski, and where do you want your skiing to go?

 

By "getting down" moguls and glades, are you linking parallel turns or side slipping the way down?

 

Do you own your own boots?  A good fitting, and adequately performing, boot is the first piece of equipment you should own (after ski clothes of course).  Good boots will help your skiing improve faster than new skis, and will help you judge those skis better.

 

Can you demo skis?  If you have never owned skis, then (probably) almost any pair of skis will be better than those rentals.  If you can't demo, then what brands/models of skis have you tried?  What did you like/dislike about them?

 

Does your price point include bindings?  Keep in mind that you can get previous years' models for less money than the "latest and greatest".

 

Others will have more basis for making recommendations, but 170 sounds like a good length for your height and weight.  If you are a higher level skier (and depending on the ski model), then you may eventually go to 175 or so.  As for a specific ski, if you have even basic parallel turns, then you might look at the Head IM78 or IM82.

post #3 of 11

You should definitely be able to spend less than $600 on your first pair of skis.  Far less.  Which is good, because you really need to put your money into a good pair of boots, well fitted for your feet.  I don't know any fitters in your neck of the woods, but I think there's a searchable section here, perhaps in the Wiki.

 

But since you asked about skis...

 

For your first pair of skis, consider a used option.  Check out Phil's Garage here and the Gear Swap forum on www.tetongravity.com/forums/, among others. 

 

For good deals on new skis, try Level Nine, Evogear Outlet, Sierra Snowboard & Ski, and Backcountry Outlet.  Level Nine has the 170 Head Monster m75 for $169; add the RFD11 bindings for $99.  Sierra has the 170 Fischer White Heat for $243.25 and the 170 K2 Apache Ranger for $253.75, both with appropriate bindings.  All those options would put you at half your limit.  Although I've skied none of these models, Fischers and Heads are typically more "lively" and "responsive," while K2s are typically more "damp" and "stable."  Think sports car vs. luxury car.

post #4 of 11

A great Eastern mountain ski for you would be the Volk AC3 or  the newer AC30 ( Same ski with very minor tweaks) in a 170cm length.

A great all around ski for your typical conditions. Both models can be purchased very cheap.

 

Send the most $$$ on your boots !!!

post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the feedback, here are some more details:

 

At this point I'm indifferent towards terrain, but I'd like to get comfortable with moguls (and maybe glades) this season and beyond.  Right now, getting down moguls and glades is a lot of stop and go.  Sometimes I'm able to link a few turns.

 

I've been renting my boots, too.  My feet are 11.5-12 so I've been renting 29.5s the past season, and they've been pretty good.  There are a few shops near me where I try some boots on.  Should I just be looking for a good, snug fit?

 

I can demo skis when it starts snowing, but it'll probably cost more to buy in the winter, right?

 

I ended using a pair of Rossignols (not sure of the model) most of the season.  I tried a pair of 170 Dynastars and 172 Heads (not sure on model either), but I didn't feel as comfortable in them.  The skis weren't in the best of shape, so that may have been an issue too.

 

I'm willing to flex and pay a bit more for bindings (by $50 or so).

 

The Apache Ranger and White Heat look promising.

 

Again, thanks for all the advice!

 

post #6 of 11

Renting boots and you want to buy skis ?  Renting skis and buying boots is a much better order of purchase.

 

Ask these guys what they might think ?  I already know.  Boots are the most important purchase you need to make.

 

post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 

I definitely want to buy boots.

 

Is there anything I should be looking for other than a good, snug fit to determine what will be a good boot for me? 

post #8 of 11

 

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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post

Renting boots and you want to buy skis ?  Renting skis and buying boots is a much better order of purchase.

 

Ask these guys what they might think ?  I already know.  Boots are the most important purchase you need to make.

 

What he said.

 

Buy boots on the recommendation of a good boot fitter and get them properly fitted.

Take the money you would spend on skis, and budget it on high-end demonstrator models.

Good carving skis are not the best in moguls, and vice versa.  High speed skis don't work the best at low speeds, and skis that work well at low speeds don't work well at all at high speeds.  Take a while to figure out what you want. 

Read reviews at realskiers.com\expertskier.com (for 20 bucks).

 

post #9 of 11

It's summer so you have lots of time to sort out your boot needs.  What's your budget if I may ask ?  Boots vary and feet vary  immensely. It's best to have a good ski shop or a professional boot fitter to help you . The boot fitter will be the most proficient at helping you get a great fit and will often identify other alignment and fitting peculiarities you might have .

 

When you buy from a shop or a bootfitter specialist you will get their help in altering your boot to fit you. If you buy on line you will still ,most likely,need some work done to fit you properly . I look for likely fits depending on reviews and possible foot shape commonalities with other skiers who are familiar with them . Then when you find a likely boot go try them on and decide  through research whether the deal is worthy or not. Understanding they will  feel a bit too snug  and  may have pressure points that need to be shaped for your foot  and ankle shape. This is all normal . First read and get good bootfitting advice here from our resident experts . Some of whom are extremely respected by their customers and peers.

 

If you can afford the bootfitter .go there first. Otherwise I would use a good shop and  get a promise they will help you get the fit you need no matter how many trips it takes. It's common that they should be there for you. If not, run out of there immediately.

post #10 of 11

 

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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

 

What he said.

 

Buy boots on the recommendation of a good boot fitter and get them properly fitted.

Take the money you would spend on skis, and budget it on high-end demonstrator models.

Good carving skis are not the best in moguls, and vice versa.  High speed skis don't work the best at low speeds, and skis that work well at low speeds don't work well at all at high speeds.  Take a while to figure out what you want. 

Read reviews at realskiers.com\expertskier.com (for 20 bucks).

 

agreed.   I cheaped out last year and used old boots and found myself spending nearly 500$ on nordica superchargers near the end of the season.  I found a drastic increase in my skiing confidence because i could actually trust what my skis were telling me.  and my skis are a 177 and im shorter and lighter then you are. (aka as skis that are way too long)

post #11 of 11

Hey there!!

I would recommend Salomon x-wing skis and boots.

These are perfect for what you are looking for.

also check out www.treelinegearinc.com

they have some things coming out this fall.

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