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Ski recommendations for northeast ice?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I am an intermediate skier who only skis in the northeast.  I’m looking for a ski that can really handle the ice.  I’m sick and tired of the sloppy soft rentals.  I demoed the Rossi Zenith z5 and loved them, however before I go and buy I would like to look at some other options.  Does anyone have any suggestions? 

post #2 of 13

Whatever you end up going with, a good recommendation is to keep your skis sharp. The best ice skis will not grip with dull edges. If skiing really icy conditions, edges dull fast and should be sharpened at least every 4-5 outings. If you're going to be putting in a good number of days, it is worth picking up some basic ski tuning equipment and learning how to hand-sharpen your skis.

post #3 of 13

Got boots?  Start with boots.  Make sure they are professionally fit.  Otherwise,  the sharpest ice ski in the world won't hold an edge through a sloppy boot fit.  Then, let us know your height, weight, and what kind of skiing you do most (park, groomers, trees, etc).  With that info many wil post suggestions tailored for your needs.

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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

Got boots?  Start with boots.  Make sure they are professionally fit.  Otherwise,  the sharpest ice ski in the world won't hold an edge through a sloppy boot fit.  Then, let us know your height, weight, and what kind of skiing you do most (park, groomers, trees, etc).  With that info many wil post suggestions tailored for your needs.


I agree about boots which is why I bought new boots.  Solomon impact 8's.  As for height and weight I'm 6'0 and about 185lbs.  I mostly ski on groomers and the steep ungroomed black diamonds. 

post #5 of 13

Do you ski steep ungroomed black diamonds only or fuckin' steep extremely ungroomed double diamonds as well? 

post #6 of 13

Well, seriously, what are you doing on your skis? Do you carve or skid your turns? What speed do you ski at? Do you like longer or shorter turns? How much time do you spend on that sick ungroomed gnar? What about making a ski quiver? 

As far as I can understand your question the answer should be something like Volkl Tigershark 10. And even better I'd highly recommend not to be a pussy and get a pair of Volkl race stock slalom skis and have fun!

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Do you ski steep ungroomed black diamonds only or fuckin' steep extremely ungroomed double diamonds as well? 


I have a house near Belleayre mountain in the catskills.  So due to proximity I ski almost exclusively there.  The double blacks at Belleayre are not crazy steep or extremely ungroomed.  I generally avoid steep runs with a lot of moguls. 

 

As to what my sking style is ... I ski medium fast and skid my turns, but I'm trying to improve and do more carving.  Most of my turns are short to medium.

post #8 of 13

From the info you've added, short to medium turns on groomers, not a bump fan I'd recommend you look at SL (slalom race) skis and maybe GS cheater skis along with others that have a sidecut turn radius between 12 and 18.  Those will be good for short to medium radius turns.  They are alst the best bite on ice when properly tuned. 

 

If you go with a 12 ish radius SL ski at your size try a 165-170 cm.  If you go with the GS cheater try some in the 179-188 cm range (cheater GS skis have tighter turn radius' than legal FIS GS skis).

 

Sierra Skis has a pair of Fischers (one pairof these left!) that are pretty nice

Fischer Cool Heat w/ FS X12 RAIL FLEX Skis

Category: 70/30
Sidecut: 117-76-103

Radius: 16m @ 170cm (175 cm is probably around 17)

http://www.sierraskis.com/shop/brand_Fischer/size_175-180/skis_0.asp

 

K2 Apache Crossfire w/ MX 12.0 Skis

Dimensions: 117/70/101
Ungroomed 30%
Groomed 70%
Radius: 16m@177

Jim's got these in a 184 cm

http://www.sierraskis.com/2009-K2-Apache-Crossfire-w-MX-120-56409.asp

 

That is a bit more forgiving than a true race ski but will still give you decent bite on ice and an overall fun ride. 

 

post #9 of 13

there are so many skis that fit what you are looking for. Many can be found at the shops that are sponsors here and also over in "Phils Garage".  The advice on boots is spot-on and while your at it, get some lessons too!  An improved set of skills will help you to use those new ski's and properly fitting boot getting you the best out of everything.

post #10 of 13

Atomic SX12.

Fischer WC SC or Fischer WC RC.

 

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Actually there is an interesting article on this type of skate.

 

post #12 of 13

Seriously, keeping your edges in tune is very important along with well fitting boots.  Also, technique, technique, technique.  On ice you need to be smooth and "soft" with your moves.  Progressive movements get the job done.  Herky jerky moves don't work.  Don't let the sound get to you.  Skiing on ice is LOUD!  Any skids or scarves will be accompanied by scratching and scraping sounds.  Don't let the sound get into your head.

 

I'd recommend you ask the question "How to ski icy conditions" in the Instruction forums and see what they have to say.

post #13 of 13

At Belleayre or any other ice, sidecut is your friend.     Shorter 'published radius' -> more sidecut -> you will like on ice.     

 

The more you skid, the more taper you'll want.

 

Ski waist size is totally optional.

 

Something in the approximate shape of the old RX9 (109/69/98) in a 170cm will do just about everything you want, if you get the flex right.

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