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Hello, trying to decide!!!

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

 Hey there skiers!, new to this site and was hoping to get some opinions on skis that I want to purchase, I just started skiing this year and fell in love with this sport!!! Im 29yrs old, 5'6, 175lbs.  I am a trainer and pretty fit by todays standards.  I was looking at two skis, the volkl ac30 and salomon xw tornado.  I was also thinking about getting the nordica supercharger ignition boots with it.  I hear great things about the tornado, but I hear it shudders during high speeds, and what does it mean when they say the ski is heavy?  the volkl ac 30 has that issue, I have done plenty of research, and just wish it was still ski season to try them out! anyone own these, or have tried them before?

thanks!

post #2 of 9

Step 1, get boots, fitted by a reputable boot fitter.

Step 2, wait until the next season and demo skis.

Both will save pain and $$$$$$

post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 

 your absolutely right

post #4 of 9

Hey Kris,

 

I am 5'9", 185lbs and I ski the 2009 AC30 170's.  They are great skis for the east coast/front side groomer crowd - I love these skis.  However I will say that they are on the stiff side and are really most happy screaming down the groomers and carving ice.  IMHO they are wide enough to be stable in crud.  I have not had issues with weight.  However I will say that you need to stay away from riding the tails, or you will be launched on your ass.  Check the search function - you will find quite a few threads on the AC30's.

 

FYI - Volkl is changing the AC30 and it will become wider under foot (I think 82mm).  I also agree with Taxman it is best to demo skis - there are definite differences that you will only find out uder foot. 

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

thanks for the info, im actually now trying to decide between the k2 recon and raider, recon has a metal plate built in that makes the difference, but I hear that they arent good for east coast ice groomers, which is what I have here in the eastcoast, your opinion? 

post #6 of 9

Seriously get boots first, and keep on renting until you improve (like get 20 days in) and then demo skis.  The Recon wouldn't be my first choice for ice back east, even though it's fine for Rockies "ice".  The Raider to me is an intermediate ski.  Might be fine for you the first year, but you really need to focus on the boots.  AND DON'T GET THEM TOO BIG.  

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thanks for the info, im actually now trying to decide between the k2 recon and raider, recon has a metal plate built in that makes the difference, but I hear that they arent good for east coast ice groomers, which is what I have here in the eastcoast, your opinion? 

 

post #7 of 9

I'd get me some new boots and buy a used or a model a couple years old . Like they have told you good fitting boots are essential and skis are just skis. So many models would fit you fine to learn and improve on.

 Buy something in the 160's with around a 70 ish waist and work on your turns.  Like a RX8 or a Volkl Five Stars of a few year ago.

Heavy is just heavy. They are best when  pressured and left in contact with the snow. They make good carvers and  I don't really like them much but for a hard surface guy in the east they would serve you fine. I think you should work on your technique on a shorter ski and let your needs present themselves later as your skiing evolves. You need something you can make nice round turns with . Something around a 15 meter radius. A used  ski would make a better purchase since you wouldn't be too deeply invested in something you might be switching out of before too long. Say a year or two.

 

Boots my friend , boots first and foremost. Skis are a plenty but boots are very personal in fit and flex.

 

Good luck and welcome to Epic.

post #8 of 9

I agree with the group - go out and get a decent pair of boots.  You don't have to spend alot, but you do need a good fit.  They are more important that the ski for beginner/intermediates.  Since all of the local ski shops are closed, you will probably have to wait until next season to get a professional bootfitter.

 

If you do decide to but boots over the internet (which I strongly recommend trying them on), do not make the mistake of buying them too big.  The Mondo sizing scale is approximate and tends to be oversized.  In my case I am a mens size 10 shoe.  Based on Mondo I should be in a 28.  However I wear a Mondo 26.5 boot - I was very skeptical at first when the boot fitter recommended the smaller size, but I am glad I took his advice.  Bear in mind the liner will pack out and compress over time and the boot may become loose.  You want to boot to be very snug and you are transmitting energy to your ski through the boot.  Anyway good luck.

 

 

post #9 of 9

Kris,

 

   Welcome to Epic.

 

   I agree with the other posters about getting boots first and then demoing the skis.  Another important consideration is where you ski.  If you ski on the Ice Coast, you may want a different ski (generally a stiffer ski)  than if you ski out west.  However, I demoed the AC30 last season and found them too stiff. I really liked the Volkl Tigershark 10, which has great edge hold for the East Coast (where I ski).  Another great advantage of demoing the ski is to determine the best size even if you have figured out what model ski you want.

 

  Good luck.

 

Tom

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