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More incredible turns!  more flaky weirdo stunts!  More media frenzy!  No more coaches!

 

MAYRHOFEN IM ZILLERTAL, Austria (AP)—Bode Miller plans to ski next season but won’t commit to the Vancouver Olympics.

The two-time overall World Cup winner disclosed his plans to his ski manufacturer Thursday during a long meeting on the Kaprun glacier. Miller skipped the final four stops of the last season to spend time with his 1-year-old daughter and said he was considering retirement.

“He’s planning to continue,” Head’s racing director Rainer Salzgeber told The Associated Press. “I wouldn’t have been surprised if he had told us he was taking the year off. But he said, ‘No, I don’t want to do that.”’

Miller declined comment when contacted by the AP.

“I’m not going to talk about it. I don’t have much faith in the media,” he said. “Why don’t you just skip that part of the story and write whatever you want to write because that’s what you guys do anyway.”

The highlight of next season is the Vancouver Games, but Miller would not give Salzgeber an answer concerning the Olympics.

“That’s the same thing I asked him, and he said, ‘I’m not focusing on that,”’ Salzgeber said. “It would be a big surprise if he stops, although the Bahamas are nice that time of year, and you never know with him.”

If he does skip the Olympics, Miller will lose a bundle of cash from Head. Salzgeber wouldn’t provide details, but said, “It does change the money.” Head is Miller’s biggest source of income.

The New Hampshire skier told Head he intends to race without coaches and he will skip summer training.

“He wants to have everything in his own responsibility. Not having any coaches leaves him a little more room,” said Salzgeber, adding he could personally aid Miller by setting courses for training.

Miller broke away from the U.S. team two years ago to train and race on his own. His personal coach from last season, Forest Carey, has been in contact with the U.S. team about a new job.

Miller might not train on snow again until September or October. The season begins Oct. 25 in Soelden, and Salzgeber said Miller wants to start there.

“He has a pretty good dry-land training program, and he looks quite good right now,” Salzgeber said.

Miller cut last season short when he failed to win a medal at the world championships in Val d’Isere, France, in February. It was the third consecutive major championship where Miller failed to medal. The streak began at the 2006 Turin Olympics, where Miller gained more headlines for his late-night partying than his skiing.

By setting his coaches free, Miller allows for the possibility of changing his mind at the last minute, but Salzgeber said the American was excited about testing new skis.

“I could feel it in the discussion. He’s really into it and he wants to push it on the materials side,” Salzgeber said. “But everybody who knows Bode could imagine he changes his mind.”

Miller’s contract with Head lasts through the 2011-2012 season. Salzgeber said the company would not terminate the contract if Miller decides to quit.

“For us, it’s not a big deal,” Salzgeber said. “He will continue to test for us either way.”

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This will be interesting....I hope he goes to the Olympics though and actually medals this time.

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Wax and edges are overrated too. 

 

So this is the start of his so low career? 

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We were discussing this over dinner last night with our kids, racers in their 20's. They both mentioned that it would not surprise them at all if Bode's entire year is quietly geared toward the Vancouver games, with his motivation being to essentially "flip the bird" at the ski world for the final time. No coach, his own training program, no USST, ALL by himself. Different story. He probably would not let the world know that he plans to ski in the Olympics until the very last minute. Bode's a different guy, for sure. And when he's motivated, he's absolutely driven. His Head contract may include a number of very lucrative bonus clauses. An Olympic gold won in North America would be worth a lot in endorsements, here and abroad. I have no doubt that he can do his dryland conditioning by himself {perhaps with his uncle Mike Kenney} and be in tremendous shape. If he's motivated, that will happen. He's normally done his own deal there anyway, and he's an amazing athlete. The comments about testing skis, sounds like the normal drill for these guys in the summer. I am presuming that he will still have the same tech support, and perhaps more. Was the comment from the Head race director about setting courses said in jest, as it appears? Could this be the seeds of the first factory team in ski racing? Team Head?  It sounds like he will be on snow for a some blocks of time between now and Soelden, calling it testing rather than training. Perhaps Forest decided that a couple years with Bode were enough, and with some movement in the USST ranks and elsewhere, the timing is right for him to move on. He's a very talented coach, and very well liked. Was it Bode "releasing" Forest, or Forest deciding to make the change? I bet it was Forest. Will be interesting to watch this unfold. What events will he ski? I wonder how many starts he'll actually ski, and where?  The only place that he needs to wear that USST suit is on the WC. Could he {and perhaps some others} be covered in the Head logo elsewhere? Bode is one of a kind. Very unique. There's part of me that thinks there's more here than meets the eye. I'm curious.

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It would be hilarious if he did go the Olympics on his own and even ditched the Heads for his old K2 Fours.  I guess that 21 ish wouldn't be an FIS legal sidecut radius these days though. 

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It would be hilarious if he did go the Olympics on his own and even ditched the Heads for his old K2 Fours.  I guess that 21 ish wouldn't be an FIS legal sidecut radius these days though. 


So that would be 14 years after he broke them out at the 1996 Junior Nationals, followed by Nationals at Sugarloaf. Most fans know that he started 50 something, and finished third in the Nationals SL. Back then that was criteria for the C team, and it put him on the USST. At the Junior Nationals, he won the GS and SG by over 2 seconds each {in a stacked field}. He won the DH by six tenths, though not on the fours, I believe. I think that his coach, Chip Cochrane made hiom race on DH's. He was second in the SL, about two tenths out. Trivia question. Who won that SL? I just asked a coach friend who's about Bode's age, and who skied in those Nationals and he came up with almost 20 guys in the race, but not the winner. Vermonter.
 

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Trivia question. Who won that SL? 

Call me a geek, but I believe it was Chip Knight, & he won by a large margin.

 

JF

 

Edit:  Ooops, I re-read it.  You are asking about jr. nationals. Chris Schadinger.


Edited by 4ster - 5/16/2009 at 12:10 am GMT
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Correct!!  If you came up with Chris Schadinger without looking it up that's VERY impressive.  It's a good ski trivia question for race junkies. I think that Chris later skied for UVM, but don't know for sure. Perhaps that could be part B.

 

US Nationals SL was won by Chip Knight....he killed it that year.

 

Bode was absolutely unbelievable at those Jr. Nationals. A lot of buzz about the "short, parabolic shaped skis", but he was on fire.

 

 

 

 

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Earlier that same season prior to the K2 Fours, Bode was sent a pair of "Chip Knight's Skis" - K2 SL's, traditional length (Chip was '93 world jr.sl champ and the guy to watch).  Bode tried 'em, asked me to try 'em - I thought they were sluggish, no pop, over deliberate.  Bode was in full agreement and didn't know what to do and we agreed he's stay on the skis he was on until something better came along....

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... it would not surprise them at all if Bode's entire year is quietly geared toward the Vancouver games, with his motivation being to essentially "flip the bird" at the ski world for the final time. No coach, his own training program, no USST, ALL by himself.

 

... He probably would not let the world know that he plans to ski in the Olympics until the very last minute. Bode's a different guy, for sure. And when he's motivated, he's absolutely driven.


I have a feeling that this is VERY accurate. I have to believe that deep down Bode would like to win a medal or two at the Olympic Games, I'm sure he considers it less important than winning a WC globe... but he's done that already. The Olympics are kind of the 'only thing left' for him to win, why not retire if he wasn't going to ski at the Games? The rest of the field has caught up to him and he's getting older, it's going to be hard for him to stay healthy enough to win season long competitions, so a 'one day' event is probably his best bet for going out with a bang. If he's competitive leading up to the games I'm sure he'll ski.

 

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uhhh, you can't just enter the Olympics the day before when you feel like it. 
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uhhh, you can't just enter the Olympics the day before when you feel like it. 
There was a comedian that used to do a segment about showing up at the Olympics and demanding to get to compete. He said when they said "no" he said "why not, you let that Wide World Of Sports guy ski?"-referring to "the agony of defeat" guy...
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Sorry to take this thread off topic, but Olympic humor is kinda funny.

BTW, when would Bode have to make his Olympic intentions public?  I'm a pretty new ski fan, so I'm not familiar with the Olympic team qualifying process.  As opposed to say, the track process where you show up at the trials and finish in the top three in your event(s) to make the team.




Jerry Seinfeld has a classic routine on the luge. It makes me laugh every time I read it:

“And that other one that I love is the luge. You know the luge, where the guy wears the slick suit. This is on the bobsled run, but it’s not even a sled. It’s just bob. It’s just a human being hanging on for their life, this is the whole sport. Just ahhhhhhhhh… “oh he pointed his toes… oh, this guy is a tremendous athlete”.

The luge is the only sport I’ve ever seen that you could have people competing in it against their will. And it would be exactly the same. You know, if they were just picking people off the street, “hey hey hey, what is this ?! I don’t wanna be in the luge”. You know, you put the helmet on them, you wouldn’t really hear them screaming, just:

- purrrrrr -
“you’re in the luge, buddy”
“ahhh ahhh ahhh ahhh… aaahhh…”
“World record. Didn’t even wanna do it”
I wanna see that event next year, the involuntary luge.”

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Here is a link to the criteria: http://www.ussa.org/magnoliaPublic/ussa/en/sports/alpine/advancement.html  it's towards the bottom of the page.
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Jerry Seinfeld has a classic routine on the luge. It makes me laugh every time I read it:

“And that other one that I love is the luge. You know the luge, where the guy wears the slick suit. This is on the bobsled run, but it’s not even a sled. It’s just bob. It’s just a human being hanging on for their life, this is the whole sport. Just ahhhhhhhhh… “oh he pointed his toes… oh, this guy is a tremendous athlete”.

The luge is the only sport I’ve ever seen that you could have people competing in it against their will. And it would be exactly the same. You know, if they were just picking people off the street, “hey hey hey, what is this ?! I don’t wanna be in the luge”. You know, you put the helmet on them, you wouldn’t really hear them screaming, just:

- purrrrrr -
“you’re in the luge, buddy”
“ahhh ahhh ahhh ahhh… aaahhh…”
“World record. Didn’t even wanna do it”
I wanna see that event next year, the involuntary luge.”


Yeah that's just hilarious.  My cousin raced in the Lake Placid Olympics, and at the time was the highest placed American ever.  He trained for years to get there.  Glad to see you have such a deep understanding and appreciation of the sport.

Edited by newfydog - 7/10/2009 at 08:07 pm GMT
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Dude...easy now.  I think it's a great sport.  Comedians make jokes about everything...that's what they do. 

I'm sure that your cousin trained hard and had a strong desire to compete.  I'm not taking that away from him.  I've been to the track in SLC and Calgary and I've been down the track at Calgary in that roller sled.  It's an intense ride. 

Yep, just more proof that this place is not all that invititing to people with low posts counts. 

Whatever, I've enjoyed with the Bobsled and Luge events of the winter olympics since I was a kid and that includes the Lake Placid Olympics. 

I'll go back to full lurker mode now. 
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Yep, just more proof that this place is not all that invititing to people with low posts counts. 



I'll go back to full lurker mode now. 

 This is the part I found more insult than humor:
“oh he pointed his toes… oh, this guy is a tremendous athlete”.

The luge is the only sport I’ve ever seen that you could have people competing in it against their will. And it would be exactly the same.

Guess you find that funny.  Fine.  Don't feel bad, in another thread I defended race walkers.  Some thought they weren't athletes either, in spite of the fact that they walk faster than most people can run and can pick up $290,000 in prizes.

PS  ....I don't much care what your post count is.
 

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Umm.. humor almost always exaggerates and distorts reality.  I suspect most people who don't have a personal connection to a misunderstood sport found the Seinfeld bit funny.  I know I did.  Any yet I am discomfitted when comedians twist activities that I am involved in...  You just aren't part of the target audience for that particular joke.
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"Is this a great country or what?"  This stuff is the meat of the comedian. 

How many jokes and skits have been based on synchronized swimming?  Not my idea of a good time but very important to those who get into it.  For those who are, it is the center of their world.  (Wonder what the equivalent to face shots are in synchronized swimming?)  They are probably just as rabid about their sport as we are about skiing. 

If we can't put up with unknowing people using skiing as the butt of a joke it will be time to put the boards away and take up a meaningful sport like Frisbee bowling or something. 

Back to Bodie.  The guys is a very talented and motivated piece of work.  However he chooses to approach the Olympics this winter hope he does it well and gives us a Klammer-like moment; that would be a really cool way to see him leave the WC scene. 

He has a bit of a problem staying on task, but he is an amazing athlete.  He and Lance would make an interesting comparative study.
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 This is the part I found more insult than humor:
“oh he pointed his toes… oh, this guy is a tremendous athlete”.

The luge is the only sport I’ve ever seen that you could have people competing in it against their will. And it would be exactly the same.

Guess you find that funny.  Fine.  Don't feel bad, in another thread I defended race walkers.  Some thought they weren't athletes either, in spite of the fact that they walk faster than most people can run and can pick up $290,000 in prizes.

PS  ....I don't much care what your post count is.
 


No worries...I didn't mean to offend anyone or belittle any sports.  I guess the irony is that I do have some fundamental understanding of the intracacies of the sport. 

I shouldn't have taken the thread off topic anyway.  Sorry.  Now about these race walkers...  :D  Just kidding.  Hey, I love racing of all kinds, motorized and non-motorized, if you can get from point A to B faster than someone else who gives a rip if you're walking or running, a race is about moving from here to there quickly. 
post #21 of 24
 comedians make fun, thats their job. One of my favorites is Eddie Izzard talking about the Olympics. "The Olympics should allow performance debilitating drugs, you win the 100m while stoned, good for you. Unless someone is dangling a Mars bar in the distance."
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I've been thinking more about the Involuntary Olympics.  Not much sporting value, but great television!  The involuntary ski jump.  The involuntary 10 meter platform dive!  The involuntary marathon!  (The referees may need extra batteries for their cattle prods for that one....)  And most frightening of all, the involuntary ribbon rhythmic gymnastics!
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Have long fantasized about combining the events, with the mental pictures they offer. 

Greeko-Roman Beach Volleyball anyone?
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I've been thinking more about the Involuntary Olympics.  Not much sporting value, but great television!  The involuntary ski jump.  The involuntary 10 meter platform dive!  The involuntary marathon!  (The referees may need extra batteries for their cattle prods for that one....)  And most frightening of all, the involuntary ribbon rhythmic gymnastics!

  Thanks for the laugh.
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