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What kind of ski topsheet graphics do you prefer?

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In addition to my "real" job as an environmental graphic designer (and ski bum wannabe ), I occasionally do some freelance ski and snowboard topsheet design work for fun -- I have a couple in the works right now. As the skiing public, what kind of look do you prefer? Subtle, retro, colorful, woodgrain, basic racer look, understated, one color, stripes, big logos, skulls???  Anything you would like to see which hasn't been on the market?


Edited by MidwestPete - 5/4/2009 at 09:42 pm GMT
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 Well, thanks R.S. -- that is pretty useful!

 



 

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Originally Posted by MidwestPete View Post

In addition to my "real" job as an environmental graphic designer (and ski bum wannabe ), I occasionally do some freelance ski and snowboard topsheet design work for fun -- I have a couple in the works right now. As the skiing public, what kind of look do you prefer? Subtle, retro, colorful, woodgrain, basic racer look, understated, one color, stripes, big logos, skulls???  Anything you would like to see which hasn't been on the market?


Edited by MidwestPete - 5/4/2009 at 09:42 pm GMT


You'd never guess this.....but I lean towards the RETRO side of things

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I'd like to see some skis in the style of the old Head Standard.  Black. 

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Wow - That is a shocker Rossi!!

 

Being a designer I love it all --retro, vintage, even twin tips with skulls. I am a big fan of 80s skateboard art.

 

While I was on vacation with my family this past summer in Chamonix, I saw that the resort had some special skis made by Dynastar. Kind of cool - chances of ever seeing these skis on the slopes here are probably pretty slim.

 

 

 

 


Edited by MidwestPete - 5/4/2009 at 11:50 pm GMT
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I'd like to see some skis in the style of the old Head Standard.  Black. 

Are you a fan of having your name engraved on each ski which is so common on the Head Standard, or is that even too much?
 

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Heh, this is how I originally met Pete, about 18 months ago, it was over ski graphics. Personally I like simple and clean. If I had to choose one word.."timeless", a good graphic will look fresh now and in 10 years.  

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Heh, this is how I originally met Pete, it was over ski graphics. Personally I like simple and clean. If I had to choose one word.."timeless", a good graphic will look fresh now and in 10 years.  

I met Phil at SIA in Las Vegas in 2008.

 

Phil just needs to start his own ski company (or re-introduce "the ski" once again)


 

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I met Phil at SIA in Las Vegas in 2008.

 

Phil just needs to start his own ski company (or re-introduce "the ski" once again)


 

Hey...I thought what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. 

 

I tried talking to Bob, he wasn't interested. 

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These look better in person.  They wouldn't look as good without the red in the bindings.

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Heh, this is how I originally met Pete, about 18 months ago, it was over ski graphics. Personally I like simple and clean. If I had to choose one word.."timeless", a good graphic will look fresh now and in 10 years.  

 

 

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I met Phil at SIA in Las Vegas in 2008.

 

Phil just needs to start his own ski company (or re-introduce "the ski" once again)


 

 

Pete and Phil should do it!

I can see the partnership now, Brains and Bullshi...

But who is who?

Maybe you can take turns. 

 

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Hey...I thought what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas

 

I tried talking to Bob, he wasn't interested. 

Until its posted on the internet

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Originally Posted by MidwestPete View Post

In addition to my "real" job as an environmental graphic designer (and ski bum wannabe ), I occasionally do some freelance ski and snowboard topsheet design work for fun -- I have a couple in the works right now. As the skiing public, what kind of look do you prefer? Subtle, retro, colorful, woodgrain, basic racer look, understated, one color, stripes, big logos, skulls???  Anything you would like to see which hasn't been on the market?


Edited by MidwestPete - 5/4/2009 at 09:42 pm GMT


In general most of the current graphics don't work for me at all. Of the few newer skis I have, something like the Dynastar Contact 4x4 would be the 'best' for my taste. There are more than a few out there that I would NOT buy no matter how well they skied, they look that bad to me

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I'd like to see some skis in the style of the old Head Standard.  Black. 

 

Early goats come pretty close.

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Racy, technical, or military.  I would like skis  that look like they are all business with tech specs on them and as if made by a military contractor or Formula-1 race team...all that graffiti/artsy/new-age stuff was cool, back whee it was new and or rare...now "edgy" looks pretty corporate and dated IMHO....kinda like how once only real tough guys and or military used to have tattoos now every little shit sports one.

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These look better in person.  They wouldn't look as good without the red in the bindings.

Those are awesome looking skis!  I also like the Ferrari Skis by Dynastar...you are correct -- red, black are charcoal are a great color combo.



 

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I think the shape of the newer skis as a template added to the demise of the graphics. Vist has had some sharp skis. Bognar also. Here are some beautiful skis...www.indigo.de (their skis for next year are even nicer)

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Pete and Phil should do it!

I can see the partnership now, Brains and Bullshi...

But who is who?

Maybe you can take turns. 

 

Until its posted on the internet



 

 

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Hey...I thought what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. 

 

I tried talking to Bob, he wasn't interested. 


Phil, don't you know all you need to do is buy the rights to the name from Bob. Or if he doesn't want to sell, you could call them "a ski" or something like that, and instead of rectangles for graphics you could use circles or triangles...
 

Rossi S. has that big building -- you could set up a ski press in there! And I could do the graphics from my home computer!

 

Now all we need to do is come up with some cash!

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Phil, don't you know all you need to do is buy the rights to the name from Bob. Or if he doesn't want to sell, you could call them "a ski" or something like that, and instead of rectangles for graphics you could use circles or triangles...
 

Rossi S. has that big building -- you could set up a ski press in there! And I could do the graphics from my home computer!

 

Now all we need to do is come up with some cash!


You saw what I saw, the cost to get things up and running and product out there, its jsut not feasible with just producing skis, you need a other products. In this economy it's not the time. 

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You saw what I saw, the cost to get things up and running and product out there, its jsut not feasible with just producing skis, you need a other products. In this economy it's not the time. 


OK then - maybe next month.
 

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OK then - maybe next month.
 


I did see that Rossignol recently cut their staff by 30%.
 

post #22 of 61

Patterns, a la what you might see on clothing (tartan, paisley, kimono patterns, etc.), or abstract modern art (De Stijl, color field, etc.).  Care has to be taken in color choices and allowing sufficient negative space so that the skis look uncluttered.  The choice of either regular repeating patterns or compositions w/large ares of solid colors is so that they would be actually complemented by the snow that would be typically on them (in an organic, random-ish distribution) in the course of skiing.

 

(Also, I'm just kind of sick of huge logos, titles, faux wood, faux carbon, faux anything.)

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Two words: porn stars

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You saw what I saw, the cost to get things up and running and product out there, its jsut not feasible with just producing skis, you need a other products. In this economy it's not the time. 

 

 

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OK then - maybe next month.
 

On the upside, if Phil is engineering the skis and MWPete is designing the graphix, these would be an amazing product!

 

One of the things on the con side of this idea.......

When Phil is producing skis, he won't be BUYING skis.  That is a big hole in the market.

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On the upside, if Phil is engineering the skis and MWPete is designing the graphix, these would be an amazing product!

 

One of the things on the con side of this idea.......

When Phil is producing skis, he won't be BUYING skis.  That is a big hole in the market.


Takes one to know one, eh?

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 MWPete, to answer your question about graphix.......

Lots of great things catch my eye, but as Phil said, Timeless and Classic hit the mark for me.

I tend to stay away from skis that are flashy, have animal prints or flowers.

 

This what you're looking for?

post #27 of 61

Understated, no boobs, no guns, no flowers, KISS.

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 MWPete, to answer your question about graphix.......

Lots of great things catch my eye, but as Phil said, Timeless and Classic hit the mark for me.

I tend to stay away from skis that are flashy, have animal prints or flowers.

 

This what you're looking for?

Yes Ma'am, Thanks!

 

That's what is tough about design - it is so subjective. At my job at the architectural/engineering firm I pretty much do what I am asked for without much thought, but give me something like ski topsheet design which I am really passionate about and that is something completely different.

 

If someone wants custom graphics, Edelwiser in Austria is good since they'll produce as little as 2 pair of skis with custom designs -- check them out on the web.

 

Through my dealings the past couple years I found that to start a ski company you need a logo, a laptop, and a manufacturer. Cash is good but you don't necessarily even need that - you can sell your product before it is even produced. So if someone is ready to take some risks the world is their's...of course right now you'll probably go belly-up!

 

On another note, I just came back from mountain biking with my son. Our little neighborhood backs up to a lake with some new bike trails (although we don't always stay on the trails, shhhh...) I bought a Gary Fisher mountain bike just before the snow started to fly, so I am just starting to enjoy it now. What a difference - my old bike was an early 90s Scott. This new bad boy just flys. I kind of got out of biking when I got married, worked a lot, bought a house, became a dad -- but now I have someone to bike with!

 

Trekchick - you remind me of my mother-in-law. She is a huge Trek fan. In a couple weeks she is biking in Alaska. Before Christmas she went biking in Puerto Rico. My father-in-law, who has since passed away, biked from coast to coast one summer.



 


Edited by MidwestPete - 5/5/2009 at 01:22 am GMT
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K2s, circa 1978. I still see these occasionally, reincarnated as Adirondack chairs or snow fencing in someone's ski-house front yard, and they still appeal to me. Edit: One of the things about this ski that you can't see in the [stolen] photo is that the topskins were a really nice matte-textured off-white that looked good and felt good and didn't get too scratched up.

 

K2 610 Comp

 

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I have 610's down in the basement. Same graphics, just different colored bands.

910...3 shades of green (DH)
810...3 shades of blue (GS)
710...3 shades of red (SL)
610...red/orange/yellow (rec SL)

 

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The late 70s and early 80s K2s have always been some of my favorite graphics! What a great logo.

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