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I'm looking for recent modern ski instruction media with lots of illustrations. So far I've had

 

Fit Skiing: Your Guide to Peak Skiing Fitness

Andrew Hooge

http://www.amazon.com/FitSkiing-Your-Guide-Skiing-Fitness/dp/0974513814


Sofa Ski School... from Blue to Black Diamond

Klaus Mair

http://www.sofaskischool.com/u%20Titel%20neu.htm


The Essential Guide to Skiing: 201 Things Every Skier Must Know

Ron LeMaster

http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Guide-Skiing-Things-Every/dp/0974625418


I'm planning on running SL/GS gates next season for the first time, stuff with emphasis on racing could be nice.

 

Who's read LeMaster's The Skier's Edge? I found his other book entertaining and looking to buy this one as well. Any thoughts?

 

... I've also seen many of Bob Barnes' illustrations in some of the other threads and is really interested in his materials, just not sure where or what to get, point me in the right direction? Thanks ahead of time.

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... I've also seen many of Bob Barnes' illustrations in some of the other threads and is really interested in his materials, just not sure where or what to get, point me in the right direction? Thanks ahead of time.


http://www.psia-rm.org/products.php?sorttype=alpine

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Who's read LeMaster's The Skier's Edge? I found his other book entertaining and looking to buy this one as well. Any thoughts?

Since you want to get into SL and GS skiing I can recomend the skiers edge. I have a copy and there is much to read. Since its with focus on racing it gets a bit outdated quickly but basic technique is still very much alike. I also recomend all the books on skiing that you can come across. They are cheap and will be of much use for many years.

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I believe you can order this DVD through Epicski.  http://imagesandconcepts.com The DVD is heavy on imagery.  I think you could PM dchan for more info.

JF

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I've read LeMaster's Skier's Edge.  I could not understand anything in the book; however, maybe if I was a physics professor it would be more comprehensible.  He will be releasing a new version of the book in the fall apparently as the original is 10 years old. 

 

There is a DVD by Al Hobart that takes a beginner from total novice to running SL/GS gates.  I own it and have watched it many times; however, it is from 2003 and so again it is somewhat dated.

 

If you speak/understand Polish, you might want to check out "Learn to race with Bob Muran" at the link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KprdsX9lSww

Please make sure that you go to youcanski.com and modernskiracing.com as well as they are excellent sites whose contributors are extremely knowledgeable on ski racing.

 

 

 

 

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USSA.org has a lot of videos available and PSIA has a lot of books and DVD's available as well.

PM Bob Barnes here at Epic and I'm sure he can tell you about his books.

Amazon has quite a few as well.

That being said I own a lot of ski books but honestly most do not contain any secrets. Sure the theory is good to know and understanding. They can tell you why certain moves are more appropriate than others but the bottom line is that Learning to ski is all about learning movements. The only way to learn these movements is to actually go out and do them. My advice would be to read enough to determine which author's therory you like and then go ski with them. You'll get so much more out of their book after you have the chance to work with them on the snow.


Edited by justanotherskipro - 4/29/2009 at 02:22 pm GMT


Edited by justanotherskipro - 4/29/2009 at 02:58 pm GMT
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x2.  I've read a lot of the stuff out there and this is by far the best.  The book defines the fundamentals that are necessary for quality skiing and then tells you exactly how to add them to your skiing.  It's simple, straightforward and easy to implement. 

 

Also, he has a DVD companion series that goes along with this (you can buy it from his web site) which is excellent.  The book includes a free DVD that will give you an idea of what you'll get with the full set.  By comparison, I've seen the USSA CDs and they aren't even in the same ball park in terms of usefulness. 

 

If you are planning to race, this is the book to buy. The fundamentals outlined in this book will transfer really well to any decent race program. 

 

Skiers Edge is an interesting book, but it won't make you a better skier.  While LeMaster is great at explaining how skiing works, he isn't great at explaining how to actually add the techniques he talks about into your own skiing.

 

Incidentally, I've found from hard experience that there is a great fallacy in so called "modern" technique.  You can't ski like that if you haven't first mastered the fundamentals.  You can't balance on both skis until you can balance on one.  If you don't first learn how to angulate, trying to ski with lots of inclination will just put you on your inside ski.  You can't ski with less counter unless you first learn how to use counter.  Master the fundamental movements, and you can develop whatever style you like. 


Edited by geoffda - 4/29/2009 at 03:11 pm GMT
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I believe you can order this DVD through Epicski.  http://imagesandconcepts.com The DVD is heavy on imagery.  I think you could PM dchan for more info.

JF



 

 

Through visualization you can learn without doing.  The Images and Concepts DVD is an excellent source of material for visualization.

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I've found from hard experience that there is a great fallacy in so called "modern" technique.  You can't ski like that if you haven't first mastered the fundamentals.  You can't balance on both skis until you can balance on one.  If you don't first learn how to angulate, trying to ski with lots of inclination will just put you on your inside ski.  You can't ski with less counter unless you first learn how to use counter.  Master the fundamental movements, and you can develop whatever style you like. 


Edited by geoffda - 4/29/2009 at 03:11 pm GMT


Tetranode, the above statement is right on.  Check out these DVDs.

 

www.YourSkiCoach.com

 

They're based on the above philosophy, building the full spectrum of foundation skills that support true expert skiing.   If you want to race successfully, you HAVE to have the skills these DVDs teach.  Without them, you'll just be wallowing in a world of racing (and general skiing) mediocrity. 
 

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Yep, the fundamentals, that's what Klaus Mair emphasized in his SofaSkiDVD, and no surprise many of the more experienced instructors who worked with me as well. Stuff like initiating the turns early, skiing over the feet, and mmckimson's favorite: "Turn your legs!" are not only advice I remember, but something I hear every weekend at clinic!

 

Having only 1.5 seasons on skis (I was a slowboarder before), I was fortunate enough to start from the ground up inside a ski school and is an instructor myself, that and the ability to spend an entire weekend (including Fridays) skiing without leaving the mountain is a huge boon to my progress. The lifts open at 8:30, and don't close until 10pm. On a given weekend, clinic happens in the morning, then teaching, another clinic in the afternoon, for both Saturdays and Sundays, I don't think there was a day skiing when I didn't have at least one clinic!

 

Asides from the half-dozen L3 instructors at my ski school, I've also gotten a chance to ski for a few days with Bart Barczynski from Whistler, not only is he an incredibly smooth skier, but an excellent instructor as well, some words of wisdom (from him):

 

(referring to turn initiation) "Here's a question: which do you want to last longer, the beginning, or the end?" ..."Nobody wants a slow, painful divorce eh?"

 

"The ski is an instrument designed to be put on edge, many people think they are windshield wipers and treat it as such."

 

I digress, as far as putting those theories to practice on the snow, I'm being watched more often than not, which translates into bad habits nipped in the bud before they become REALLY BAD HABITS. As for the instruction media, studying expert advice before I start doing stuff helped a great deal in the sense that it progress my skiing much more efficiently than just getting frustrated and not knowing what I did wrong. How does that work?

 

Before watching that Klaus Mair video, during my first season of skiing, I could not angulate to save my life, doubt setted in, I thought to myself, 'is it because I'm not athletic enough?' 'is it because I haven't enough experience skiing?' This kind of attitude would only lead to worse skiing. After watching Mair's video and pondering, the internal doubts were replaced with corrective advice, so when stuff isn't working I thought to myself now, 'angulation isn't happening, try lifting that inside leg, put more force forward, extend the outside leg, fight the banking.' In this regard, the theoretical knowledge drawn from the books/media made a huge impact on my skiing, even in practice.

 

... While carving GS turns (without poles), I'm now able to reach inward and grab the inside turn with both of my hands in the snow, to which my students would often try to imitate (and slide out)... I guess I'm helping them out by getting better myself!

 

1.5 seasons isn't a lot compared to the 30+ years of expertise from the senior instructors at my ski school, but I do feel that the amount of time and effort I've given in the 08/09 season does warrant a step up in the form of running gates... and it starts with studying the fundamentals during the off-season! More books!

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