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Tuckerman 2009

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

It seems that every year we have TR's and fun stories about a few places that are special like Corbets at JH and Tuckerman Ravine.  This year the stories about Tucks seem to be sparse.  Anyone done it or doing it this year?

 

This is a video found on Youtube  of Tucks last weekend.

 

 

 

post #2 of 23

 

yep. definite downturn in TRs here this year. i actually had to go over to tgr to get my fix. oh, the humanity !

post #3 of 23

 Holy SPIT. I live how the crowd cheers for the avalanche rather than being scared. Only at Tucks

 

Avalanche we salute you! Let's have another beer!!

post #4 of 23

The retard-o-meter is pegged on high in that video.

 

There are two separate "energetic" threads about this at TGR. The original thread on a Tuckerman's forum was pulled by the OP. Last I saw, a followup thread was still alive.

 

See:

 

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158409

 

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158416

 

http://timefortuckerman.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11571

 

 

post #5 of 23
Thread Starter 

I was thinking, as I watched this video as well as a few other related videos on the Youtube page.......

I wonder how many folks get an extra dose of stupid when they do Tucks. 

post #6 of 23

hahaha, classic Tuck's vibe. Cheering on avalanches. Supposedly people were also cheering up there when an avalanche banged up two skiiers a few weeks ago. Funny stuff.

post #7 of 23

You guys have an interesting definition of "funny" in your neck of the woods... 

post #8 of 23

Dude stayed up on his feet for most of the ride and never appeared to be in trouble. Maybe that's why they cheered. Maybe they laughed because he was snowboarding and wearing a big foam hand. 

 

Leave your "Oh my God, he could have been injured! Do you have any idea how dangerous 'avies' are!?" schoolmarm attitude at TGR, we don't need it here. It was damn funny, but not as funny as your rockered skis. Haha.

post #9 of 23
Thread Starter 

 You're correct about that rod, and I'm betting the background voices would have said stuff more like "Oh my god, lets get up there and dig him out" or "someone call 911" if this guy would not have ridden it out or if it appeared that the others had been swept away.

 

IMO this was a fun video because it was not tragic.  This does not negate the hint that some extremely knowledgeable and extremely prepared people head to Tucks and get an extra dose of stupid because of the vibe that Tucks can create.

 

Ask me if I have Tucks on my short list of things to do?

post #10 of 23

Of course, it is not funny to ski unstable snow above other people like the example cited in one of the TGR threads about people doing exactly that above rescuers trying to help a guy with a broken leg at Tucks that day, but in this case it looks like there was no one near the slide path so he was only endangering himself which maybe is a choice he should be allowed to make.

 

I probably would not be cheering if I saw an avalanche happening after I had hiked up there with the intention of skiing the headwall, because that would mean a change of plans for me. But I probably wouldn't have got even that close if the reported avy risk wasn't low.

 

I've been wanting to ski there for a while, but haven't yet.

post #11 of 23

Damn TC....that "short list" seems to be getting pretty long.....

post #12 of 23
Thread Starter 

The Question is...

Are you man enough to do TC's list!? 

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Damn TC....that "short list" seems to be getting pretty long.....

 

post #13 of 23

 

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The Question is...

Are you man enough to do TC's list!? 

 

Just today you've gone coast to coast....Mt. Hood to Tuck's....

how many other's are also on it?

post #14 of 23
Thread Starter 

You forgot Corbets! 

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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

 

Just today you've gone coast to coast....Mt. Hood to Tuck's....

how many other's are also on it?

 

post #15 of 23

 

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but in this case it looks like there was no one near the slide path so he was only endangering himself which maybe is a choice he should be allowed to make.

 

 


Ignoring the possible philosophical discussion, you must have watched a different video than the one up top in this thread that I watched. 'cause on my display there's a guy running like hell to get out of the way of a slide that could have done some serious damage. And the cheering fired up way before anyone could have known the outcome. 

post #16 of 23

how much longer the TR will be skiable this season??????

post #17 of 23

June at least.

post #18 of 23

I've been to Tucks many times - don't know a thing about avi danger.  Never read the signs.  Never seen an avalanche there.

 

What I have seen is ice fall.  Huge, VW size ice chunks that break off on the warmer days and roll down to the floor.  A guy I met back in '74 used to hike the goat path early so he could be there before the crowd.  I caught up with him, when I arrived and his knee had been seriously injured by a bowling ball sized piece of ice.  He was on the floor of the Headwall and quite a ways from the steep section when he was hit.  The fast moving ice grazed him, fortunately.  It could easily have killed him.  That ended his season.

 

The other hazard I have experienced is rocks.  With everyone moving around above the Headwall along with the changing conditions, rocks break loose.  A good sized one nearly took me out a while back -  it hit my back pack and skis, but not me.  It came right down the snow ladder, then turned towards lunch rocks.  Everyone scrambled for safety and no one got hurt.  That got my attention.

post #19 of 23

 

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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

Of course, it is not funny to ski unstable snow above other people like the example cited in one of the TGR threads about people doing exactly that above rescuers trying to help a guy with a broken leg at Tucks that day, but in this case it looks like there was no one near the slide path so he was only endangering himself which maybe is a choice he should be allowed to make.

 

I probably would not be cheering if I saw an avalanche happening after I had hiked up there with the intention of skiing the headwall, because that would mean a change of plans for me. But I probably wouldn't have got even that close if the reported avy risk wasn't low.

 

I've been wanting to ski there for a while, but haven't yet.


Tuckerman's is a very dangerous place.  When ever I went, I kept an eye out.  But people don't know.  There is a false security when you are in the bowl.  Some guys are skiing lines that most wouldn't believe possible.  There are some great skiers leading the charge.  There are also some crazy risk-takers attracted to the place, people who think they can ski better than they can.
 

 

The boy was there that weekend.  I heard that there were many injuries.  When you get hurt at Tuck's you get carried out by hand.  There's a snow cat available at HoJo's, but the path out for the injured is the same one used to get the bowl.  It requires man-power.

 

As far as people skiing up above the rescue - who knows what lead to that.  Most people would not intentionally put someone injured at greater risk.  Maybe they skied in over the lip and didn't know there was a rescue underway.  From what I know, that rescue was not an easy one.  I heard that the hurt skier was on the steep section for over an hour.  That section of the bowl is steep as hell.

 

When I listen to the vid, I hear the "crowd mentality", hootin and hollerin.  I am sure these people didn't realize the potential risk.  If someone had been injured or buried, they would have helped out.  At Tuck's you see some awesome skiing followed by cheers, same with crashes - some cheers are inappropriate.  I wonder what my reaction to the slide would have been.

 

post #20 of 23

 

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The retard-o-meter is pegged on high in that video.

Haven't been to Tuck's in the last few years (wrong side of the country and all) but my experience is that if you are there during peak times the retard-o-meter is ALWAYS pegged.  You can let it bother you, or you can do as epic says and have another beer...

post #21 of 23

 

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.  When you get hurt at Tuck's you get carried out by hand.  There's a snow cat available at HoJo's, but the path out for the injured is the same one used to get the bowl.  It requires man-power.

 

 

This reminds me of a time maybe 40 years ago when I volunteered to be part of a litter party to carry an injured person down. This was a rather large woman who had injured her ankle and could not walk, or so she said. My God she was heavy, and one suspects that sometimes some of the crew are not really picking up their share of the load! For some reason the snow cat was not available. I think maybe the snow was gone from most of the Fire Trail and the ski trail and they wouldn't use the cat. Anyway we shifted over to the Sherburne trail about halfway down because the footing was better. Carrying a litter over all the loose rock on the hiking trail was no picnic. Imagine carrying a litter over really bad terrain! Near the bottom, almost within sight of the buildings at Pinkham Notch Camp where the trail becomes flat the "victim" asked us the put down the litter and got off, stood up, and walked the rest of the way.

 

I dunno, maybe we were just all too beat or maybe too polite to loft her into the Cutler River.

post #22 of 23

Great story, oisin. 

post #23 of 23

 

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Ask me if I have Tucks on my short list of things to do?


Trek, you have a long shortlist.
 

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