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post #31 of 46

I get hurt every time I go skiing. I never know why for sure but I think it's usually 8, 16, 17 and 18.

post #32 of 46

I've got another factor: sudden change in temp. Late July, I had been hitting a tabletop on Hood. In the morning, I found just the right "point 'em" spot to get the speed to make it to the landing. Got bored, went higher up for a few runs, then came back to park maybe ONE HOUR later. That hour = big temp change. Next time I hit tabletop, slush puddle at base of kicker robs me of speed and I case the landing. Separated shoulder. Other primary factor: too old for that sh**.

Hood tabletop

post #33 of 46

1,4,7,15

 

It was December 1965 and I was 12 years old.   I was a tentative intermediate skier on the last run of the day.  I turned and there was a woman, who I missed but ran over the back of her skis.  I took a twisting, forward weighted fall and experienced a spiral fracture of the tibia and fibula.  Ouch.  I was in a cast for over three months and didn't quit limping until summer.

 

15 is for the equipment.  The bindings were cheap (cable heel and crappy toe) and the toe didn't release.  This was the days before anti friction devices for the ball of the foot.  A little parking lot gravel in the leather sole of my boot ground into the top of the wooden skis and my full weight forward helped create a glue-like adherence.  

 

My mom must have felt guilty about the equipment because the next year I had real step in bindings (Marker Simplex toes and exploder heels), metal Hart skis, and real (Le Trappeur) buckle boots!!!  That year (66/67) also marks the beginning of my real addiction to skiing.  All's well that ends well.

post #34 of 46

Isn't every ski injury # 14 Bad f'in luck ?

post #35 of 46

Apparently so, lack of skill seems to a non-factor for everybody except me. :( 

post #36 of 46

#7, #14 and #20 (too slow).

post #37 of 46

I'd say 2,3 and 6 (and opposite of 6) are my most common.

 

Flat light I seem to have solved with these newfangled HI goggles.  Speed + sudden condition change has caused me to slow suddenly and seriously fly ouf of my bindings (better than anything broken).  And too slow a few times, where I've cased the living hell out of tables.  I've also hit my shoulder on a tree or two, which I guess would count as "bad line choice"... yes, into a tree is a bad part of any line lol.

post #38 of 46
Thread Starter 

not a bump, need this on page 2 for convenience in posting

no one owning to #10 leading to #7 ? getting too creative? 

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

 I was at an end of season party the other day and noticed how many of my ski buddies were banged up.  I made a list. Fourteen ski buddies banged up enough to  miss 4 weeks or more, need surgery (immediately or this summer), be in a cast or brace. (note: the banged-up-group is expert level skiers)

 

So what happened?

 

Which of the following conditions have contributed to your mishap? (additions april 27)

 

                                                                  tally April 28

                                                                  

1 Bad technique                                                  2

2 Heavy, choppy, crusty snow conditions              4

3 Flat, poor light                                                  2

4 skier-skier-rider collision                                    0

5 Hidden obstacle (horizontal tree, dry dock rocks) 4

6 High speed                                                       4                                                    

7 Bad line choice                                                 2

8 Skiing beyond ability                                         0

9 Moment of distraction                                        3

10 Intoxication or altered state                              1

11 Insufficient coverage/snow-base early season    2

12 Knocked down by your buddy                          0

13 Bad kharma                                                   0

14 Bad f'in luck                                                   1

15 (Other)                                                           2

added by request:edit

16 Bad conditioning, physical weakness, in bad shape                   2

17 Wrong equiptment (how could I have forgotten this go-to reason) 2

18 Too old for conditions                                                              2

19 Fatigue (late and last runs)                                                      2 (?)

 

And what is your strategy to stay healthy for 50+ years of skiing? 

 

My nemesis this year: a combination of poor coverage and crappy line choice=dry scree cliff band, 5,7,11

Oh, and skiing fast with a group of buddies 6,9,10

My strategy: go easy when conditions suck, patience in-other-words

 

I find myself too superstitious to say my ski-injury history of 55 years.

 

 


Edited by davluri - 4/27/2009 at 05:34 pm GMT


Edited by davluri - 4/28/2009 at 03:54 pm GMT

 


Edited by davluri - 5/2/2009 at 01:42 am GMT
post #39 of 46
Thread Starter 

that's like when everyone agrees to be self-revealingly honest, but you're the only one that does 

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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

Apparently so, lack of skill seems to a non-factor for everybody except me. :( 

 

post #40 of 46

haha... only time I've drank a few #10's resulted in me putting on the blades and ripping around on those for a while.  I was sober enough to make good decisions still, and didn't end up crashing at all. 

 

I guess there was another time I had 2 beers with lunch at keystone, run afterwards was a wide open empty groomer with a gravity bump in the middle.  Just aired out a mute grab on my Kneissl white stars at at least 30mph... fun stuff beer or no beer.

 

Then there's some saying... "smoke ***, ski hot"?  It's true as long as you can make big boy decisions.

post #41 of 46

Another condition I would add is fatigue, which leads into various items already on your list.

 

This based on observations after picking up the pieces of buddies who sometimes forget that they're not 25 anymore...

post #42 of 46

5+11=

post #43 of 46

Just about every injury happens on the last run. 

 

You just broke yourself and it hurts a lot, maybe it is bellding.  Yep that sounds like a last run to me.

post #44 of 46
Thread Starter 

I heard something about that once: never take the last run. Having plastered myself against a cliff wall once at 3:45, and left an imprint of the splattered man on the snow on the wall for all my buds to see, and forgotten who the president was, I resolved something: no exposure on the last run, stay away from rock walls, give yourself somewhere to fall. 

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Originally Posted by Stranger View Post

Just about every injury happens on the last run. 

 

You just broke yourself and it hurts a lot, maybe it is bellding.  Yep that sounds like a last run to me.

 

post #45 of 46

Actually, I think his point was that if you get hurt, it's probably your last run of the day...even if it's at 10 AM.  Once they take you down in the sled and heave you in the ambulance, I doubt if you're going to head back up for more that day....

post #46 of 46

I agree with what Stranger and others have said.  The vast majority of my falls/injuries occur at the end of the day when I'm tired and I decide to ski one run too many. 

 

That said, I don't think I fully satisfy the criteria since I've never missed more than two weeks due to a ski-related injury. 

 

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