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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

Where shall I begin?

 

When I arrived at BZN airport, my skis did not arrive with me, so Rio generously offered me an opportunity to ski his daughters Gotamas. What a riot!! 

So......I checked around to see if I could get the ski closest to that Goat, which is the 08-09 Women's version Kiku.

 

With the Kiku in hand, I notice some subtle differences like the slightly different tail, and the feminine, yet not too girly, graphix.

 

Since its the womens version, I have other things to consider:

Will the Kiku mounting be similar to the Goat?  My gut says that she may need to be mounted slightly different due to the difference in the tail.  Which brings up another question, will the Kiku need fondling before being drilled?

 

 

 

We can chat about waxing preferences later.

post #2 of 22

TC, I've had good experience emailing Volkl through their US web site. They get back to you in a day, and with actual stuff like mm from tail to mounting point. This is good to know since the past few iterations of the Goat, at least, there's been discrepancies between marks on skis and factory recs. 

 

That said, two other things: 1) I've heard that the Kiku is simply a lighter cored Goat, no other real differences. Cannot speak to the tail. But if true, then the rear mark should be pretty close (within a cm) to a good compromise mount. If you go long, you might think about 1 cm forward. I doubt you'd want them behind the rear line unless they are just for deep powder.

 

But 2) If the Goats were a riot, why not get them in a 168 instead of the Kiku's? Easier to find around at a good price, and this season's may end up the last in a great sequence of traditional shapes. Vertical sidewalls and all. Of course, the graphics are an acquired taste. 

post #3 of 22

Mount them 1.125mm in front of the Goat. You've seen the 'Goat'... right?

 

CAUTION, This is R Rated.

 

post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 

Beyond, you are right on many accounts, but what fun would it be to actually go to the source, when I can get pleasant chatter among friends on where to mount a Goat, errrrrr, Kiku?

 

I thought about getting a used Goat in that year/build, but Ptex offered me a price I could not refuse on the Kiku, and it is supposed to be the closest to the goat I skied at BigSky.  Rio can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe its the 05-06 Goat.

 

So, ........... since Graphix are not as important to me as performance, price and availability was more of an incentive than anything else.

 

Whiteroom, you got it 

 Not PC in any way, but you got it.

 


Edited by Trekchick - 4/22/2009 at 03:52 pm GMT
post #5 of 22

 

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Whiteroom, you got it 

 

 


Hmmm... not shocked by the 'Goat'... I'm impressed. Well played indeed.

post #6 of 22

Trekchick used the 05-06 Gotamas which are a softer flex than the current Gotamas and a tad narrower in the tip and tail.  The Kiku has a softer flex than the current Gotamas and are suppose to be closer to the original Gotamas in flex. 

 

I bought my girlfriend a pair of 168 Kikus, also.  I've been measuring the 168cm Kikus verses the original 168cm Gotamas and found the mid-sole make on the Kiku is close to Gotamas if you line them up against each other.  On the other hand, if you measure where the running surface starts the mid-sole is about 2cm back.  I'll probably measure them again just to make sure this is correct.  As of now, my inclination is to mount the Kikus 1 cm forward which still puts them significantly behind where I normally have my girlfriend's skis mounted but these are going to be her deep powder skis so moving the mount backwards makes sense to me.

post #7 of 22

 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 

Will the Kiku mounting be similar to the Goat?  My gut says that she may need to be mounted slightly different due to the difference in the tail.  Which brings up another question, will the Kiku need fondling before being drilled?

 

We can chat about waxing preferences later.

Most guys would recommend going with the strange tail. Eventually, the novelty wears off after a while; remount in a different position to spice things up.

post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 

Thank you Rio for the first hand knowledge from someone who has had both the goat and kiku in hand. 

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Originally Posted by hoody View Post

 

Most guys would recommend going with the strange tail. Eventually, the novelty wears off after a while; remount in a different position to spice things up.


I ran this theory by MrTC who says he will not admit nor deny the validity of this statement on the grounds that TC may not be amused.

TC doesn't get it. 

post #9 of 22

 

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I ran this theory by MrTC who says he will not admit nor deny the validity of this statement on the grounds that TC may not be amused.

TC doesn't get it. 


post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 

 

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I ran this theory by MrTC who says he will not admit nor deny the validity of this statement on the grounds that TC may not be amused.

TC doesn't get it. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

 


 

I'm very easily amused............Really, I am!

post #11 of 22

Try the Schizo binding since it's a women's ski.

 

RE: the waxing, do you apply fiberlene after ironing, then rip it off really fast after it dries? 

post #12 of 22

This post is getting pretty weird....

 

TC,

 Are you going to get rid of your PM gear Bros, 174

Let me know if so, as my daughter would take them in a flash...

 

thanks,
neil

post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by nfp158 View Post

This post is getting pretty weird....

 

 

 

Weird?  Its TC getting new skis.  Between seasons(which implies boredom), and inquiries for friends to contribute mounting advice.  What's weird about that?

 

 

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Originally Posted by nfp158 View Post

 

TC,

 Are you going to get rid of your PM gear Bros, 174

Let me know if so, as my daughter would take them in a flash...

 

thanks, 
neil

I had not thought about that.  Perhaps, you know my motto, everything's for sale.

 

post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by epic View Post

Try the Schizo binding since it's a women's ski.

 

RE: the waxing, do you apply fiberlene after ironing, then rip it off really fast after it dries? 


RE: Schizo binding.

I don't know if I should be enthused about this binding technology or insulted because you think I can't make up my mind.

http://www.zapiks.com/presentation-of-the-schizo-b.html

http://www.voelkl.com/index.cfm/en/14/0/1/1519

 

RE: Waxing......we're still on mounting and drilling.  We are not on to Waxing just yet.

 


Edited by Trekchick - 4/22/2009 at 08:22 pm GMT
post #15 of 22

 

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RE: Waxing......we're still on mounting and drilling.  We are not on to Waxing just yet.

 

 

 

post #16 of 22

So........

 

What position did you finally decide on for the mounting and drilling?  And what about the strange tail? Did foreplay (fondling and caressing) occur prior to the mounting and drilling???

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, really, that was a real question since mine will be on the way on Friday

post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 

I think I'll be taking Rio's actual advice since he's extremely knowledgeable about the strange tail and mounting. He's an exceptional chef, too!! 

post #18 of 22

Re mounting goats, check state laws in advance.

 

Re the Schizo binding... WTF?  A cross between Railflex and a wind-up toy?

post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post

Re mounting goats, check state laws in advance.

 

Re the Schizo binding... WTF?  A cross between Railflex and a wind-up toy?


For the record, I rode the goat in Montana.  I'll be mounting the one with the strange tail in Michigan. 

 

Re Schizo.......

post #20 of 22

I've been asking some of the locals about mountaining goats and the concensus seems to be you should bob their tails so they don't get in the way of mounting.

post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 

Well, Rio, I would guess that your locals would be knowledgeable about such things

I am not sure why I'm such a pussy about it...

 

post #22 of 22
Thread Starter 
There's a chill in the air here in Northern Michigan, which has me thinking that I may be getting ready to revisit this topic.


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Originally Posted by Rio View Post

Trekchick used the 05-06 Gotamas which are a softer flex than the current Gotamas and a tad narrower in the tip and tail.  The Kiku has a softer flex than the current Gotamas and are suppose to be closer to the original Gotamas in flex. 

 

I bought my girlfriend a pair of 168 Kikus, also.  I've been measuring the 168cm Kikus verses the original 168cm Gotamas and found the mid-sole make on the Kiku is close to Gotamas if you line them up against each other.  On the other hand, if you measure where the running surface starts the mid-sole is about 2cm back.  I'll probably measure them again just to make sure this is correct.  As of now, my inclination is to mount the Kikus 1 cm forward which still puts them significantly behind where I normally have my girlfriend's skis mounted but these are going to be her deep powder skis so moving the mount backwards makes sense to me.

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