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post #1 of 15
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landed a kicker at brighton and the right ski came off. after i looked at it, i saw that the binding looked like this:

 

luckily, i could still fit my boot in there, and managed to ski down to the repair shop, where i showed it to the repair guy

he told me, "you're f#cked, i've never seen anything like it before"

so is there any way to fix this, or should i start looking for some new bindings?

post #2 of 15

Welcome to Epicski. Great first post! 

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Originally Posted by turchenko View Post

landed a kicker at brighton and the right ski came off. 


Landed might be generous.

 

I'd take a shot at fixing it by unscrewing the heel piece, and seeing if you could gracefully remove the metal track part of the binding from the plastic base plate.  Then see what the parts really look like -- any cracks, bent pieces, etc.  If I'm seeing what I think I'm seeing (cracks in the metal), it's not fixable.  But, if the individual parts were OK, you could try sliding the metal track back into the plastic base plate, re-attach to the ski, and see how much slop there is.  Then put a boot in the binding and see if you can get it to fail by hand.

 

I'm guessing the repair guy saw something we can't see, leading to his (correct) assessment. 

 

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post

 


Landed might be generous.

 

I'd take a shot at fixing it by unscrewing the heel piece, and seeing if you could gracefully remove the metal track part of the binding from the plastic base plate.  Then see what the parts really look like -- any cracks, bent pieces, etc.  If I'm seeing what I think I'm seeing (cracks in the metal), it's not fixable.  But, if the individual parts were OK, you could try sliding the metal track back into the plastic base plate, re-attach to the ski, and see how much slop there is.  Then put a boot in the binding and see if you can get it to fail by hand.

 

I'm guessing the repair guy saw something we can't see, leading to his (correct) assessment. 

 

Good luck!


ok, so maybe i didn't land it as gracefully as i should have xD

 

i'll give that a try, for sure. I was thinking that if i could unscrew the other half, i might slide it out.

 

the repair guy didn't really see anything, he just hit it with a hammer a few times before he offered his diagnosis

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ok, so maybe i didn't land it as gracefully as i should have xD

 

i'll give that a try, for sure. I was thinking that if i could unscrew the other half, i might slide it out.

 

the repair guy didn't really see anything, he just hit it with a hammer a few times before he offered his diagnosis


Only a "Virginia Redneck Hammer" or NC Redneck Hammer would be the proper tool for that job.

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the repair guy didn't really see anything, he just hit it with a hammer a few times before he offered his diagnosis

 

OK, so maybe we need to give the repair tech's diagnosis a little less weight, wrong hammer and all .

 

Are those Z12 bindings?  Because they do have a delicate construction in the heel.

post #7 of 15

doesnt look that bad. as long as there are no cracks, that should pop right back into the plastic housing. I had a similar situation occur with a pair of Marker Comp14s, and they went right back in.

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Only a "Virginia Redneck Hammer" or NC Redneck Hammer would be the proper tool for that job.


 

"Don't force it -- get a bigger hammer."

post #9 of 15

If I'm seeing things right. Pretty standard breakage for that flavor of Salomon heel if you are big/heavy or you jump. Your local Salomon dealer should be able to get a new track/base plate (or pair )...  Hopefully courtesy of Salomon. However, don't be surprised at more of same...

 

IIRC there was some discussion of snagging a steel steel vs titanium track. But I'm not sure about that.

post #10 of 15
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not sure if solomon will do anything for me about this, we got the skis at a ski swap. I'll try the unscrewing bit later, and if that doesn't work, we'll just shop around for some slightly more decent bindings.

post #11 of 15

Flippy spinny kids rip even the steel ones apart into a bent and mangled mess, and the Ti versions appear to be stamped to the same dimensions with the same tools.  Like spindrift says...pretty standard way to explode those.  The Ti ones break the brake mounting tabs sometimes too.  You might be able to put them back together, but it is sorta like dislocating your shoulder.  It won't be the last time.

 

Get some clamps with the real deal heel.  You'll note it is much heavier and has a worm forward pressure adjustment.  Available in many letter/number combinations from Salomon.  You should still get yourself a warranty pair of these blown up binders and give them to your girlfriend or something.

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You should still get yourself a warranty pair of these blown up binders and give them to your girlfriend or something.

 

lol, no need. she skiis on brand-new armadas

post #13 of 15

Ok, then get the free bindings and give them to me to replace my pieces 'o crap.

post #14 of 15

Yup thats typical of a lot of solomans I have done it twice to a set of 912's it should just be a matter of unscrewing and popping the heel track back into the plastic. Be careful the plastic is easily crushed by the screw. The screw doesnt actualy hit the heel track to hold it down back there it rides beside, weird as hell but works ok.

post #15 of 15

As is the case with most products in any sport, the strongest and best performing, are the competition models. I'm pretty happy with my Solomon S9-14s. I also have S9-16s on DH skis; they have five screws in the heel mount, one more than the S9-14s.

 

Generally the higher the DIN setting will, go, the beefier, all around, the binding will be. Look for them at ski swaps, etc. on old beat up race skis. You won't get them cheap because you get what you pay for.

 

People who huck big cliffs and such also scrounge for these bindings, so you'll have competition for them. I once got a sweet deal on a pair of skis because a guy just wanted the bindings; I reduced his cost for the bindings by buying the skis.

 

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