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Tyler Hamilton

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 Tests positive. Retires. No word yet from his twin.

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I follow bike racing pretty casually..... what will it take to eradicate illegal drug use?  Is there any hope that we will see races and have some certainty that the winner (or anyone else) wasn't benefiting from chemistry?

 

It's such a let down.  Here are these people that you want to exhault for working so hard and demonstrating what a human can accomplish when they put their mind and body to it.  You want to celebrate their efforts even if they finish mid-pack or worse, then you find out they did their best... to cheat.  What a bummer.

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 Tests positive. Retires. No word yet from his twin.

Is Tyler's wife doping again...

 

What the F was he thinking this time?

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Is Tyler's wife doping again...

 


Maybe, but they divorced, so I don't think she has any involvement this time.

 

bumpfreaq - I think the time is now. Anyway, if it enhanced his performance, it wasn't by much this time. I still think it's a shame on many levels. Wasted talent, etc. I wish he would have just been man enough to admit it the first time and not try to take us all for fools. (Raised over 1 million dollars in his "I Believe Tyler" campaign)

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It is a sad story.  He suffers from depression, which runs genetically through his family.  He took an anti-depressent package with banned substances.

 

What gets me though, is that he said he knew they contained banned substances.  What a self centered jerk.....does more damage to the sport which was giving him a second chance.

 

Meanwhile, his team just released three young riders because they don't have the sponsorship money to pay them.  Hey Tyler, think there is a connection?

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Well, Michael Ball is a whole different thread. He probably released them because he gets more press from that than from paying them for mid-pack finishes.

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All top end sport will ALWAYS face these problems. There is just too much money to be made. The contest has really become "who can get away with what" more than anything else.

 

Get used to it...it will NEVER go away.  Sad but absolutely true.

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Get used to it...it will NEVER go away.  Sad but absolutely true.


 Oh, I'm used to it....I've followed this sport for many years.
 

 

I think we're coming out of a bad spell though, and hopefully going into a better period.  Back in Tommy Simpson's days the drugs were around, but they ween't that effective.  By 1999 they were very effective, and testing lagged way behind. The whole pack doped, and few were caught. Now with the biologic passport type screening, coupled with half  the sponsors leaving the situation is improving . The test looks at the entire blood and hormone picture and can throw a rider out for any unusual change, even if a drug is not found.  We can have a little more faith in the results, until the next great thing, like gene implants comes along. 

 

Johnathan Vaughters said in 1998, none of the press were talking about doping, but the riders on the team bus discussed little else.  Now the press is obsessed with it, but the riders are more often discussing racing training and general gossip.  They are not doping in general, and the teams aren't organizing it.  Some teams are actually firing riders due to their own internal testing, something unheard of in the past.

 

There are still plenty of attempts to dope, but it is less widespread and it seems they are getting caught.  I hope the trend continues, but I'm not sure how confident I am it will.

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 The thing is it's not this sport, it's every sport. This just happens to be the one where they do the testing for it.

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 The thing is it's not this sport, it's every sport. This just happens to be the one where they do the testing for it.


Have you been following the FIFA/WADA row?

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Have you been following the FIFA/WADA row?


Does FIFA actually allow a real drug-testing program?

 

IMHO - FIFA is the reason that Puerto has never gone anywhere.

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IMHO - FIFA is the reason that Puerto has never gone anywhere.


Interesting hypothesis.   

 

  If Blatter sat on a bunch of national sports bodies back in '07, then IMHO the Valverde case alone proves him right.

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Is there any hope that we will see races and have some certainty that the winner (or anyone else) wasn't benefiting from chemistry?

Realistically? No. With current races, amount of races, number of stages, lenght and difficulty of stage, there's simply no way you can do it without some extra "help". Not even to just survive it, and even less to win it.

But let's be honest... it's pretty much same in every sport. Only difference are people behind it. Some (FIS or FIFA or MLB, NBA or NHL for example) knows how to handle things, others (UCI is best sample of this) have no idea how to handle things. UCI and their fight against doping, with making races even more difficult at same time, brought only one result... people's percetion that cycling is dirty. It is, but as I wrote, it's not any better in any other sport.

Does anyone really think people playing football (or soccer for anyone from other side of ocean) for 50 million eur/year (while best cyclists hardly get over 1 mio eur/year) are clean? Officially they are. Why? Because it's simply not in interest of FIFA to make their stars look bad. In UCI, they simply don't care about their starts... about people who actually sell cycling. Considering few years ago ex-chairman of UCI said something like "UCI doesn't need cyclists and cycling industry" everything is pretty clear why situation in UCI and cycling is like it is.

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