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Hart Phoenix

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I am not able to try very many skis.  As a matter of fact, my Nordica Top Fuels - 170 which I have been skiing for about 4 years are pretty much all that I know when it comes to skis.  I skied the Head Magnum last year and really enjoyed it.  My experience is limited from the stand point of providing a review.


I am 5'10" and 195#.  I have skied my whole life and am a real good skier with many good days and many bad days.  When I am off, I like to blame my equipment.  I ski the bumps well for my age (55).  GS turns are relatively new to me.  Up until a few skis ago, I would only ski a slalom.


The Phoenix is a 174/66 under foot, with some side cut.  They look very simple in comparison to most of the other skis that you tend to see.  They are thin and have a low profile.  It's a flat mount.  I was a "walk-in" at the Forerunner and he mounted the bindings for me while I waited.


I was interested in this ski having skied the F-17 with Phil last year at Stowe.  They are similar, more side cut than the F-17.  Then after I slammed into a tree at Killington I requested help selecting something that skied well at slower speeds and in the woods.  Bob Barnes suggested I try these.


The ski comes with a base of 0* and 2* side.  I found it hard to tip it on edge to get steep edge angles.  I would say it likes to ski flat and that you need to push it a bit to get it on edge.  With my skiing, I tend to over do edge angle when ever possible.


The snow at Killington on Wednesday was gloppy at times and I struggled with the ski on the first few runs.  I kept hanging up the left ski, having to step out of the snow.  My GS turns were not too good in comparison to my Top Fuels, which are tanks in snow like this.  This gloppy snow was not the ideal conditions for these skis.


On the firmer smooth surfaces, the ski can really crank SL turns.  My turns were quick but the skis remained flatter than how I would normally ski.  Edge hold was phenomenal considering the edge angle.  I am not certain, but the sweet spot seems to be snugger than any of the skis I've been on in recent years.  The ski is very responsive and has a stiff feel to it.  Yet it flexed easily in rough terrain.  In some ways it felt like a race ski.  I found myself banking turns instead of the constant angulation that I normally use.  Practice on firmer snow will give the ski a better chance to prove its ability in faster GS turns.


The highlight of the day was riding this ski in the bumps.  Without a doubt, it is the best bump ski I have ever skied (in the bumps).  I am not saying that it's a bump ski, but it was nimble and quick, it could carve and snake or stay tight in the line.  It felt so good to be in the bumps and have the right tool.  This season, the bumps have been cruel to me.


I had a fantastic day skiing the Phoenix.  This is a ski that matches my style of skiing - quick turns, bumps and terrain.  Down Draft was some what firm, and they were incredible.  East Fall was sloppy and it wasn't the right ski, for me.  After only one day, I believe that I have found a match.  East Coast fall line skiing is what I like to do and these skis are going to provide a new level of performance.


Thanks to all who offered their suggestions in the earlier thread.



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Here is a vid of me on a smooth surface, firm.  I was having some trouble staying centered.  Felt like the skis were leaving me behind.  The run prior to this one was sweet.  I caught an edge and you can see it in the vid.  It felt much worse than it appears.



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Here are some bumps for the Phoenix.  I see a very flat ski relative to how I normally would do it.

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Paul, there is no questioning the quality of the Hart skis. You will realy like them and ForeRunner is a great shop. What binding did you put on them and how did they mount them.  

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Head Freeflex Pro 16, they are red.


Phil, not quite the ski I was looking for in the gear discussion thread.  But this is going to be a great match for me.  I doubt it will go in the woods, but it will be put to good use around here.

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Those are a good ski. The mounting positions on the harts are really important from what I've gathered talking to Phil and the guy I ordered my ski's from.
Mine are incorrectly mounted, and I had trouble turning on them. I'm moving mine further forward.

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Mine are a tad forward.  That is something I know nothing about.

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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post

Mine are a tad forward.  That is something I know nothing about.

You bought them from a shop who knew their product.

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I wasn't sure what to do so I told him to... "do me right".  I like that shop.  It's not like the Basin or Northern.  A lot of bumpers buy there.

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