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post #1 of 12
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hi all..wanna help me out here?.well here it iz...iI have just started snowboarding because watching my daughter rip up the hill on a board just looks like so dam much fun! She has been bugging me for years to try...so I have...ouch!..regardless> I have been a pretty hardcore skiier forever and still ski all Mtn stuff like I was 30! So I am not that bad yet....I want to be able to ride with my friends and daughter next season so i want to get some board gear of my own. I really would like to get gear that might last me through a learning curve and not huck it all out after i have learned to ride comfortably...I am 5'7 and about 175lbs. I rode on crappy rental gear and a 149cm board. Can anyone offer up some suggestions on gear? I am familiar with my daughters stuff but know little for myself. If anyone has some time I am really open to suggestions cause I do not have much faith in the basic retail shop that just throws anything at you. Thanks for the time.

post #2 of 12

My reply isn't much help, but why now just get some wide twin-tip skis and save yourself the trouble of flailing on a board and risking life and limb?  My daughter rides a board and as far as I can see, that differentiation doesn't make us any less close or prevent me from skiing with her.  After watching an attorney collegue break his wrist after being body slammed on a snowboard, and have to wear this contraption with a spike driven through his thumb, I swore off snowboarding before ever starting.   As an old guy, the toe edge body slam doesn't appeal to me.  Here is a picture of my daughter several years ago demonstrating my worst fear...going from hero to face plant with a scorpion move (heels to head) in seconds.

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck facedown, and to keep your head up I recommend more radical skis. .

post #3 of 12
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ha 2 funny!..ya i know all about the falling...personally I don't care.. itz all part of the learning curve nomatter what u do...I am not intrested in park riding..jumping off tabletops etc is not going to be my thing...I have followed snowboarders all of the mountain in all conditions...they seem to be able to handle tighter trees than I can is about it.. and those bobsledd type runs where itz harder on skis.. I just wanna learn to ride and have fun all over the mtn...so ya... I have heard just go buy any crap board and ride. Well gee I guess that means all boards are the same?

post #4 of 12

You can try exchanging board for different lengths to find the length you like if you have a chance to rent again.  Use this length as a reference for your purchasing decision.  My guess is that you want something longer than 149. Just get a beginner board from K2, Burton or some other brands will be fine.  I still use my first board all over the mountain all the time.

 

 

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My reply isn't much help, but why now just get some wide twin-tip skis and save yourself the trouble of flailing on a board and risking life and limb?  My daughter rides a board and as far as I can see, that differentiation doesn't make us any less close or prevent me from skiing with her.  After watching an attorney collegue break his wrist after being body slammed on a snowboard, and have to wear this contraption with a spike driven through his thumb, I swore off snowboarding before ever starting.   As an old guy, the toe edge body slam doesn't appeal to me.  Here is a picture of my daughter several years ago demonstrating my worst fear...going from hero to face plant with a scorpion move (heels to head) in seconds.

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck facedown, and to keep your head up I recommend more radical skis. .


Facedown, go to a snowboard demo festival.  Check for them at the beginning of next season.

 

Cirquerider, tell your daughter to stop riding like a skier.  Look across the hill in the direction the nose of the board is headed.  Skiers look down the hill, riders look across the hill. 

 

She also has the classic heelside pivot around the front foot.  Her weight is extremely forward and allows the back foot to pivot around at the end of the turn.  Her weight needs to be more centered.

 

Or perhaps she was trying to spray snow on you and the manuever went astray?

post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 

Ok well...I really am probably gonna ride all mtn rather than park...my daughter likes that but i go everywhere, pow,trees,steeps, groomers,etc? so which board are you thinking?..Like maybe the K2 format to start?

post #7 of 12

I ride all mtn too.  I bought my first park board this season.  Demo fest's have more than park boards if it's a big fest.  I demo'd an Atomic Cold Smoke a few years ago at Loveland and loved it.  I went there to demo another Atomic board and found it was way too stiff for me.  The Cold Smoke was there so I tried it and loved it.

 

Winter Park and Copper have big demo fest's every season.  I suspect that Whistler has one too since it's an Intrawest mountain.  Check their website event schedule.  Find out what manufacturer's will be there and start reading reviews of models and their spec's.

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Ok well...I really am probably gonna ride all mtn rather than park...my daughter likes that but i go everywhere, pow,trees,steeps, groomers,etc? so which board are you thinking?..Like maybe the K2 format to start?

 

post #8 of 12

Hey old guy!

 

Congratulations on being more manly than the twin tip pu... oh wait - he's not so bad for a circuituous 2 planker.

 

As others have recommended, a demo day at your local resort is the best bet for choosing gear. Make sure you like before you drop big $$$.

 

There are like a billion and a half different board makers out there. Most make great product in a variety of price/quality ranges. You'll want to start with choosing a budget (anywhere from $100-500+), a type of board (probably "free ride" over freestyle or alpine), a flex pattern (you'll want a softer board vs a stiffer board) and a length based on your weight (check out this page for size recommendations based on weight), skill level (a little shorter for beginners, a little longer for more experienced/aggressive riders) and type of snow (a little longer for your weight for the presumably more powdery snow in BC). My guess is 155-160 cm would be good for you. Remember that you're also going to be buying bindings and boots, and you'll have a ton of choices there too.

 

You can do a lot of shopping online. I have a whole slew of places to shop listed on my web site on this page. Many of these sites will be glad to help you over the phone too if you have questions.

post #9 of 12
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wow thxs 4 the reply...ya im stoked to do this!...as i said i wanna learn again!...ya with all the pain.. i dont' care... but some day im gonna ride like i can ski!...im just looking for advice and sounds like im getting some..thank u all!...god i can't wait!

post #10 of 12

Learning to ride does not have to hurt. A lot of it depends on how you're taught. When we switched to teaching movements and using "learning" boards in our rental fleet, the amount of crashing during the learning process was greatly reduced. Still, wrist guards and a helmet are a good idea too.

post #11 of 12

I have to echo what Rusty has said.  Wrist guards and a helmet are extremely important. 

 

I'm 5'8", weigh 170 and will turn 63 this year.  My softboot board is a Nitro 154 but I would be comfortable on a slightly longer board - maybe 158.  

 

Stick with boarding and you'll have many years of fun ahead of you.  Once you get comfortable in your riding, you might also want to try a hardboot (alpine) board.  The ability to carve is greatly enhanced.

 

There is a wealth of good info at the GraysOnTrays website.

 

In addition to the retailers Rusty has listed in his site, check out www.suburbansport.com as well.  I handle online sales for the store.

post #12 of 12
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wow hey thxs patmoore...those sites help tons!...I have got some gear together on year end sales and hope to go do this...I am so gonna try hard anyway...thxs for your help...and thanks all...anyone who wishes to take time to help with anything god i am open!...cheers!

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