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nordica mach 3 versus tigershark 10 foot

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hi, i'm trying to decide betweent he tigershark 10 foot and the nordica mach 3.

I looking for a ski for eastern hardpark ice mainly.  Typical day would be put the son in lessons formt he morning while i tire myself out on iccy steeps and some moguls, then do greens and blues with son and sometimes wife in the afternoon, often snowplowing.

 

 i demoed the tigershark 10 foot -no PS, in a 168 and also the 12 foot tigershark in 168.  i'm 5'11" 150-155 pounds.   level 8-9 skier.  i'm making the move from old straight skis that i stockpiled before they were phased out - rossignal 7S 207 cm. 

 

i'm still kind of adjusting to the "new" skis, 

i liked  the tighter turns of the tigershark 10 foot, but i felt they kind of chattered a bit more at higher speeds.  the 12 foot was ok at higher speeds, but not great.  was skiing on spring slop though with the 12 foot and frozen spring slop when i tried the 10foot so that might have resulted in more chattering. 

 

i didn't get a chance to demo the mach 3, but from reading reviews it seemed like an interesting ski. 

 

if anyone has any opionns on which might be a better fit. 

my concern is that mach 3 (not the power one)  might not do so well for afternoon time with the family.  Both tigersharks were fine with the family - in that they were ok doing gentle cruising and didn't throw me around while i was taking it easy holding a camera or skiing backwards - which i'd be concerned a too high end ski would.    

 

i would demo the mach 3, which would kind of solve this probelm but i dont' think i can find a demo place this season, and i'd like to take advantage of offseason prices to make a purchase since i'm being forced to retire my straight skis as my straight ski boots are disintegrating.

 

 

thx for any input.

 

 

thx for any suggestions.

post #2 of 10
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i woudl say i've only tried basiclaly only 2 models of "new" skis  the two tiger sharks, so i'm kinda not entirely sure what to expect.  The difference in new versus straight wasn't really as big a deal as i thought  it would be.  i didn take lessons to make sure i was making the adjustment correctly.  i didn't realize up/down motion, and weight loading one ski were considered faux pas.  but i guess my main concern is i thin the adjsutment shoudl be relatively easy overall and i'm not sure the tigershark is an advanced enough ski, but i definatley don't want/need a race ski.

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

 one other note the tigersharks seems really heavy, is that a volkl thing or a tigershark thing?

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I haven't skied the Nordicas, but I skied the Tigershark 10, no PS, for 2 days in Vail recently.  I am primarily an East Coast skier, currently on Fischer RX8's.  The Tigersharks -- and most "narrow" skis, in fact -- get little love here, but I really liked them.  I'm not sure that they are "chattery"; I wonder if that is more a technique difference for you than the ski. 


Myself, I'm a good level 8 skier and I ski pretty fast generally, and I found no particular issue with speed

limit on them.  YMMV.  I skied them on some frozen (NO ski really loves this), hardpack, groomed packed, and soft granular.  I even dropped into the Bowls where it was deep spring granular crud.

 

I liked the 10 a lot -- as a matter of fact, if I had the dough, I would have bought a pair when I came back home.  I found them quick yet easy; powerful without being too "boardy".  I also tried the Volkl AC30, which I felt did not carve as well and was not as quick as the TS, and the Dynastar Legend 8000 which felt like it might be the right ski for someone out west, but which felt blah and uninspired to me.  Weight was not an issue for me.

 

I don't think they're an ideal western daily ski -- but that doesn't sound like what you want.  For the East....as I said, I'd buy a pair.

 

post #5 of 10

 

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Originally Posted by jbang View Post

i woudl say i've only tried basiclaly only 2 models of "new" skis  the two tiger sharks, so i'm kinda not entirely sure what to expect.  The difference in new versus straight wasn't really as big a deal as i thought  it would be.  i didn take lessons to make sure i was making the adjustment correctly.  i didn't realize up/down motion, and weight loading one ski were considered faux pas.  but i guess my main concern is i thin the adjsutment shoudl be relatively easy overall and i'm not sure the tigershark is an advanced enough ski, but i definatley don't want/need a race ski.

 

If you are just now making the move from straight skis, and if you ski a fair amount (say, more than 6 or 8 days a season), your skiing style is going to be going through some big changes. At least, you should hope it will; you should definitely take a couple lessons to learn where the fun is in the new style skis. Most old-schoolers like I (was) do NOT just figure this out on their own immediately; the old habits are just burned in too deeply. You really need to work at it over the course of a season or two. When you say "The difference in new versus straight wasn't really as big a deal as i thought  it would be," that is evidence that you are probably skiing on the new skis with your old ski technique. When you start to "get it" with the new skis, you will be saying "WHOA! This is AMAZING."

 

What all this means is that any evaluation you make now might be kinda meaningless in a couple of years when you have really gotten the carving groove down. Therefore at some level you shouldn't worry too much about exactly what you get. The Tigershark 10s will be fine, and you're not going to outgrow them quickly when you start laying down those clean arcs, either. My two cents.

post #6 of 10

I've tried the Tigershark 12 and the Mach 3 non-power, 165 lbs. Was not inspired by the 12; nice edge, good at speed, nothing to complain about, but nothing much to rave about either. Stiff. I might have liked the 10 Foot better given my weight. My first try at the Mach's I didn't much like them but was skiing them at the longest length (only demo) and they were pretty long in front to pressure. A while later, tried them in an appropriate length and was more impressed. More snowfeel and easier to initiate than the 12's, just as much grip, nearly as good at speed, not as rock stable but more fun, especially in bumps or softer snow. If I wanted a ski from this group to use with the family as well as on my own, I'd pick the Mach 3. But good luck finding any of these skis at a good price.  

post #7 of 10
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thx that's great color.

 

post #8 of 10

I've demoed the Volkl TS10 and the Nordica Mach3.  Between the two, I preferred the Mach 3. 

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

just wondeirng what did you like better about he mach 3

thx

 

post #10 of 10

The Mach3 seemed more solid under me, almost immediately.  The Volkl TS10 was fun, but it took a few runs to get them figured out.  

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