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A few turns

post #1 of 14
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Soft spring snow on Eagle (steep) at Sugarbowl

 

Followed by a few turns on lower McTavish.

 

working on an early transition and a round top of the turn.

 

video.epicski.com/dcdsr.wmv

post #2 of 14

Nice skiing dchan!    Very smooth, rounded out turns! 

post #3 of 14

Really nice improvement to what I remember seeing in the past.  I envy your symetry & parrallel legs.  You are also moving into the turn much better.  Sometimes though you are almost over doing it with a forward movement as opposed to a diagonal one, which causes you to get stuck for a moment as if you are gonna fall onto the next turn. This causes you to have to lift your hips up & to the outside in order to release the skis.  Also you tend to set the edge on your downhill ski at turn completion, which interupts the flow into the next turn.  Think about releasing the new inside ski with a softer little toe and inside leg retraction while the CM continues in the direction of the new turn.

 

Take my view with a FWIW attitude, as I am not as eloquent as many on here at putting what I see on paper.

 

Hope that makes some sense.

JF

post #4 of 14

I agree, 4ster. Nice turns overall, DChan, but you do tend to get too "forward" over your feet, especially at the ends of your turns. It causes your skis to slow down their forward movement at the end of the turn, rather than shooting cleanly through the transition toward the other side of your body. The result is the occasional "bucking" forward of your upper body, and the need for a forced "up" movement to start the turn, along with some tail displacement to get those skis out to the side.

 

Allow your feet to move forward beneath you as you release your edges at the end of the turn. Think of it more as a lateral movement, as your skis move across the hill to the other side of your body, as your body moves "forward" down the hill, inclining into the new turn.

 

While it is true that we need to move "forward" into a turn, it is important to remember which direction "forward" really is: down the hill, at least to some extent. It is not "in the direction of the skis," as many instructors seem to think these days. So as you allow your feet to pass beneath your body, it may appear from some angles that you are "in the back seat." But if you allow your body to move down the hill from your feet at the same time, you really are moving ahead of them, and the "back seat" appearance is really just your skis moving to the other side of your body--as they must!

 

Best regards,

Bob

 

post #5 of 14

I thought I would recognize dchan's skiing easily, but it really changed from what I remember. And it changed for the better, of course. Very nice indeed.

 

As for the forward movement, yes it is a bit too much, especially since it also lifts you up more than you really need it. But you are clearly emphasizing early tip engagement, so I suspect that it is more a drill than normal skiing.

post #6 of 14
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I thought I would recognize dchan's skiing easily, but it really changed from what I remember. And it changed for the better, of course. Very nice indeed.

 

As for the forward movement, yes it is a bit too much, especially since it also lifts you up more than you really need it. But you are clearly emphasizing early tip engagement, so I suspect that it is more a drill than normal skiing.


Thanks

 

All the turns I've been making in all my skiing right now, I'm trying to "embed" into my skiing. The movement pattern of moving way forward and down the hill are the things I'm working on.. I have found that by taking the movement way beyond what I need, (again learning a new movement pattern) It helps change and replace my old movement patterns.

post #7 of 14

This is a good demo of up and pivot.  I explained recently in another thread how keeping the body facing down the falline encourages the tails to pivot out upon release, as the legs strive to enter directional harmony with the downhill facing upper body.  With the up move, this is an excellent demo of that too. 

 

To see the up move, watch you're outside leg through the bottom half of the turn.  After the apex it flexes from long to short, then as you enter the transition you set the edge and extend it.  Sometimes it really throws you forward heavily onto the tips of your pivoted skis. 

 

 

www.YourSkiCoach.com

post #8 of 14
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The worst part about this is Sugarbowl closes on April 26 and I probably will only get 2 half days more before the end of my season.

 

Anyone got some dryland exercises to help engrain the movement patterns?

 

DC

post #9 of 14

Finally could get the video to play. Nice skiing Dchan. Good and accurate feedback by Bob and Rick. However, I would suggest that a retraction turn would be a better option in such quick short turn skiing. This would mean that the upper body would move laterally into the new turn and down hill smoother without being pushed up and vaulted over. A relese of the downhill ski at the end of the turn would take that upward stab away. Also, picture dchan skiing in a mogul field like this. At the moment of extention he would be skiing over a bump and getting rocketed up in the blue.

post #10 of 14
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A dynamic Short would not normally be a retraction turn but I do need to work on releasing the old turn earlier and more progressivly as well as be more patient at the top of the turn and keeping that long outside leg long, longer, so I can manage the pressure better during the second half of the turn.

 

 

post #11 of 14
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I got one last chance to ski this season.

 

A few more turns. Not trying to create any huge angles. Just trying to be a little more gentle at the bottom of the turn and being patient at the top.

I know it's not as consistent as I want but it is what it is.

 

This is at Squaw Valley, off of Shirley Lake on the race course. Conditions are firm spring starting to get real soft. Since it's on the race course, it's still pretty fast (chemicals)

 

http://video.epicski.com/dc.wmv

 

p.s. Sorry for the poor video quality; New video person. I had to post process it to get it zoomed in.

 

 

 

 

post #12 of 14

Your skiing has improved considerably, David.

 

I'd spend some time thinking about what Bob suggested.

 

Mechanically, I'd also think about what you DO to start a turn.  Do you  release edges first or do you change ski dominance first?

 

post #13 of 14

Bummer, I can't seem to open either video on my Apple??  By all the positive comments it sounds good? 

post #14 of 14
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Bud,

 

I'm using a fairly new codec for windows. You may need to load the latest version of windows media player for Mac..

 

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/windowsmediaplayerformacosx.html

 

Or you can download the codec's required for quicktime..

 

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/wmcomponents.mspx

 

DC

 

 

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