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Someone walked off with my 10-year old pair of Rossignol 9.9 Mt Vipers last week in Breckenridge.  They were in mint condition and absolutely loved those skis.  Am now forced to re-enter the market place, but haven't really paid much attention to all the latest advancements in skis.  My Rossis were 194s and I'm 6'3" 185 lbs.  I ski blue cruisers with my wife/daughter part of the day, then head out to do steep stuff with my son/others.  Mostly on-piste, but still like to do back bowls, powder when I can get it (Utah grad!) and the occasional mogul run just to see if can still handle the punishment at 51 years.  Looking for a 1-quiver ski because only get out to the mountains one or 2 weeks a year, but am partial to the feel of a Rossi or Dynastar.  Any suggestions?

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search man! search! 

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Originally Posted by Kossskier View Post

Someone walked off with my 10-year old pair of Rossignol 9.9 Mt Vipers last week in Breckenridge. 


Why would anyone take those? Not like there aren't any shiny ones at Breck.

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My thought exactly!  I mean they were a great pair of skis and all, but as you pointed out there were lots of other shiny newer ones to make off with.  Only thing I can think of was:  1) they were in mint condition and 2) I had purchased them as a demo ski and so had the quick-set bindings which made it easy for someone else to readjust and ski off with them (was at a mid-mountain restaurant when they were swiped).  Normally, I always separate the skis, but was a cold day and figured the likelihood of someone making off with these old skis was almost zero.  Guessed wrong.

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CX80 is rossignol's all mountain carver it's 80 underfoot so it would probably be enough for the occassional powder run.It's oriented towards piste performance and it wants to go fast,Responds to modern aggressive tequnique well.

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Originally Posted by Kossskier View Post

Someone walked off with my 10-year old...Am now forced to re-enter the market place, but haven't really paid much attention to all the latest advancements in skis.  My Rossis were 194s and...am partial to the feel of a Rossi or Dynastar.  Any suggestions?

Welcome to Epic...lots of good info here.

 

I don't want to be rude, but skis have changed a lot in the last 10 years, so unless you have skied something other than your 9.9s recently, I think it is hard to say what you might like.  If you demoed something after your skis were taken, then post what you liked and didn't like about those skis and you will find you get better responses.

 

I'm your size and like the 172 cm Dynastar Contact 10s (same as Ltd and 11s of prior years) that I just picked up for on piste, but have other skis and haven't skied them in powder.  I am not familar with the 9.9, but imagine that these would ski much, much different.  Sticking with Dynastar, the Legend 8 K (in a 178 or 184) is considered a good all-rounder and would likely work better for you off piste and in powder, but will likely have less edge grip in harder snow.  The 4 x 4 is this year's expert all-rounder with an on piste bias, but may be a bit much for you when skiing the blue cruisers with the wife/daughter and will likely be tougher in the moguls.

 

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I'm always looking for another pair of Viper 9.9's...    They were a great ski for their time.  I still have a set - like new!!

 

If you like Rossi, and want an all-mt ride, consider the SC80 - a good all-arounder. 

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Appreciate your insights.  Agree that skis have changed a lot, that's why not sure where to start.  Tried some Volkl AC40s at 184 cm.  Did surprisingly well in the back bowls of Copper and Vail that week with fresh snow, but overall found them 'heavy' and a bit sluggish.  Also got on a pair of Armadas for a day; good carving ski but didn't have the snap I was looking for in short turns.  I know I'll end up having to demo more, just trying to zero in on a few likely candidates.

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Armadas are not short-turners. 

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OK, your experience with the AC40's helps. They felt heavy and sluggish because they are beefy skis, the 177 would have been far more appropriate for your weight, which is more relevant for most folks than their height. And as Axebiker says, Armadas are not for short turns. Neither are most 90+ waisted skis aimed at powder. 

 

Suggest this: Ask yourself a few questions. Such as, "Where do I like so ski mostly?"  "Do I want a do-everything well ski or a do a few things - like powder or carving groomers - superbly?" 

 

That said, I'd bet you want a one-ski to rule them all. So if true, think about candidates in the 85-95 mm waist range, here are some ones to check out: Dynastar Mythic Riders in 178, Fischer Watea 94's in 178, Salomon Fury's in 177, K2 Extreme's or Line Prophet 90's in the low 180's, Blizzard Cronus in 180. Notice that only the twins or the softest regulars are recommended to be 180 or above. No. I can't think of any outstanding Rossi's between 80 mm and 115 mm. Yeah, skis have changed that much. 

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Thanks!  Appreciate your insights, and yes am definitely looking for a 'one-ski' to do everything well.  Based on my online followup it looks like your suggestions would be a great place for me to start out.  May still lean towards a Dynastar, but will definitely keep an open mind about the others.

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My $0.02:  

If you have a Dynastar bias, definitely try the Legend 8K in a 178 as an all-rounder.  The 4X4 is an outstanding ski, but (as mentioned in another post) has a definite on-piste bias (it rocks there!).  In my opinion, the Mythic is a bit slow-turning to be a true all-rounder, but it is a crud-busting champ.  I would maybe choose it if I were off piste 60-70%. 

 

I agree that the 184cm AC40 you demo'ed was definitely too long for your size. I didn't care much for the Volkl AC50 (which I felt were even more burly than the AC40 they replaced), and found them not very versatile.  If you still want to give Volkl a shot, I personally have had a lot of fun on the AC30 in a 178 (I'm 6'5" and 200lb).  While it excels on-piste, I have had a lot of fun on it it varied conditions (although other posters have had a different opinion).  I understand that Volkl is adding a few mm of width to the AC30 next season.  That may make it even more versatile.  (Unless they stiffen it also,  in which case it just becomes another AC40.)

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I recommend taking a look at the Dynastar Mythic Rider, Line Prophet 90 and Blizzard Cronus. Hopefully you can find a demo of one of those before you purchase.

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