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Thoughts from the Masters

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Things that stand out while watching the masters 

 

  • The sound of the pros teeing off resonates through my living room
  • It seems that they are missing putts that they would normally get 

 

 

Your thoughts?

post #2 of 15

TC,

 

One of the things that always amazes me is the purity of contact the tour pros (as opposed to some of us feeble teaching pros) obtain on all their shots. Beyond the speed they generate at impact the consistency with which they hit the "sweet" spot on all clubs is amazing. When you look at a tour pro's club he has had in the bag for sometime there will be a worn spot no bigger than a quarter, sometimes a dime. When Tim Clarke chipped onto 18 today and handed his club back to the caddie you could see it. Combining the generated clubhead speed with the "centerness" of impact they compress the ball so well and it just explodes off the face.

 

The greens at Augusta are treacherous with both unbelievably subtle and large breaks as well as phenomenal speed. TV, being 2 dimensionsal, will never be able to show the contours of those greens. Frequently if you are 18 inches past the hole it could be "bye bye" as the ball keeps rolling 6 to 10 feet past. You saw that with many par saving attempts.

 

On my first visit there 4 years ago I remember looking at the green on number one in the early morning light and just thinking OMG.

 

Wish I was there this year for the tournament but it didn't work out. But the plans are to be there in 2010!!!

 

Enjoy the final round tomorrow-should be good.

post #3 of 15

 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 

  • It seems that they are missing putts that they would normally get 

This is why one should whisper one says the name of the tournament....

 

"The Masters".

 

You'll also hear a lot of the pros talk about being patient. It's all talking about the same thing. "Treacherous, subtle and phenomenal speed" may be explanations that make sense to the general public. But if you can compare the respect that the pros have for Augusta vs places like Oakmont or courses that have made so difficult that luck means more than skill, you can gain a deeper understanding of why those putts are being missed. It's not just that some of the putts are hard, it's that getting the ball onto the greens into places where the putts are easy is so hard.

post #4 of 15

I think the Masters is so different and harder because it's the first Major of the year. And it's relative because they aren't game hardened yet. This year the greens do look faster but they are the same as they have been for years. I think shot positioning to the greens is more critical because of the slope. Being above the hole isn't someplace you really want to be even at 4 feet. The rough doesn't seem to be as deep this year.

post #5 of 15

Phil is on a run. Should be interesting.  

post #6 of 15

Indeed.

 

Going to be interesting anyhow.

 

No wind and great weather along with the course set up. It appears to me the course and hole position have been set up for real low scores from everyone. Did they do this on purpose to give Phil and Tiger a chance to catch up/

 

i think so.

post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 

 who's going to take the sudden death?

 

Perry's been hot!

post #8 of 15

Tomorrow's headlines....

 

"Woods and Mickelson battle at the Masters, oh, Cabrera wins in a playoff..."

 

 

post #9 of 15

"Perry Gags at Masters"

 

or" Cabbrea Falls into Bucket of Shit, Comes out Smelling like a Rose"

post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Tomorrow's headlines....

 

"Woods and Mickelson battle at the Masters, oh, Cabrera wins in a playoff..."

 

 


 

I haven't read the headlines yet, but I'm sure this is probably close to reality. ^^^^

post #11 of 15

my thoughts while watching...

 

Jack Nicklaus in his long prime, with modern equipment and course conditions, would wipe the floor with these guys, Tiger included. Nicklaus had bad days/years and missed shots just like every human, but he finished second 18 times (close seconds, most of them) in addition to winning 20 majors because he never shot himself out of a tournament by making a stupid decision (a la Phil on 12 or KP hitting his driver draw on 18 and being surprised that it reached the trap) or by hitting a putt without committing to the stroke (Phil and Chad), or by persisting in a strategy that cost him strokes every day (see-- Tiger driver on 18). If Nicklaus had shot the front nine 30 the way Phil did, he would have followed it with no higher than a 34 on the back, probably lower, and posted a score that would have won him the tournament in regulation.

 

Felt bad for Perry.  Did exactly what Norman should have done back in 96 for 16 holes-- play for pars, make a few birdies when putts fall and make someone shoot 64 to beat you-- and then just couldn't close the deal on 17 and 18 once he knew he had it...

 

BTW-- new to EpicSki-- this has got to be the greatest site ever-- golf and skiing and equipment junkies-- its like a field of dreams....

post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by keniski View Post

my thoughts while watching...

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BTW-- new to EpicSki-- this has got to be the greatest site ever-- golf and skiing and equipment junkies-- its like a field of dreams....


Welcome to EpicSki!  

 

 

post #13 of 15

I watched Arnie and Jack play my whole life and my thoughts are that even with modern equipment, Tiger and many of the other top ten money winners would make Jack look like john Daley does now. And I've always been a big Golden Bear fan.

 

Welcome BTW.

post #14 of 15

Thanks for the welcome...   I can't believe I forgot to mention the "What are you drinking" thread in my list of things I love about visiting here!

 

post #15 of 15

 

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Originally Posted by mikewil View Post

 

One of the things that always amazes me is the purity of contact the tour pros (as opposed to some of us feeble teaching pros) obtain on all their shots. Beyond the speed they generate at impact the consistency with which they hit the "sweet" spot on all clubs is amazing. When you look at a tour pro's club he has had in the bag for sometime there will be a worn spot no bigger than a quarter, sometimes a dime.

I was amazed at Perry, an old guy with a funky swing.  On a 225 yard shot where he had to carry 220 to clear the lake he hits a 5 iron and sticks in on the green, and that was at low altitude in high humidity.

 

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