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Good deal or museum piece?

post #1 of 23
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So I always have a hard time turning down what appear to be good Craiglist deals but you sometimes have to move fast. Sometimes too fast. About a month ago I bought a pair of Rossi Axiums with bindings. They're in pretty good shape and the price was right at $25.  I can't find a whole lot about these although on paper they don't seem a lot different than modern big pow skis. 130-110-120, stiff tail, softer tip, not a lot of camber. Anyone ever own a pair? How old are they?

 

Second issue. The bindings were Marker M51 Graphite. I found these on last years indemnified list so as good as any Marker I guess. The skis are marked on the topsheet to mount the bindings offset to the middle.  I guess they thought you couldn't ski anything this wide with bindings centered. Anyway some rube mounted both skis offset the same way. Should I just leave it, remount one offset to the other side, or center mount both, or just chuck the Markers iin the trash?

post #2 of 23

 Chick the Markers, they are no longer indemnified. As far as the skis, I still see a few pair every year our on the hill. They are still popular with the teledudes. If you remount them, mount them centered. 

post #3 of 23

Rossi Axium???  peeps still rock them on the hill here.  I guy I worked with in the shop rocked them many days this winter with tele bindings. 

 

Philpug:  I've even seen them...I'm not even sure what its called- mounted to the center (not on center line) but mounted to the center of the ski.  So people could have their feet close together and still be "on a fat ski"!  Have you ever seen that?  I've seen it enough times that it was kidna a regular thing- especially on that ski.  Haven't seen that particular mounting on a modern pair of skis though...

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Philpug:  I've even seen them...I'm not even sure what its called- mounted to the center (not on center line) but mounted to the center of the ski.  So people could have their feet close together and still be "on a fat ski"!  Have you ever seen that?  I've seen it enough times that it was kidna a regular thing- especially on that ski.  Haven't seen that particular mounting on a modern pair of skis though...

Back in the olden golden days of the mid 90's when "powder skis" first started showing up, it was thought that the skis were just too wide to have the bindings center mounted. 

post #5 of 23

although they are gradually disappearing due to bending etc (with all the metal in them), they are cherished by those that have them, and probably ski as well as new skis of similar concept, and by that I mean: they are the straightest ski out there (in the straight line and big huck ski family). concur^^^, remount in current fashion, and with the metal top sheet (for hold) and some sealed plugs in the old bore there will be no detrimental effect.

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Anyway some rube mounted both skis offset the same way. 


Are you saying they mounted BOTH skis offset to the SAME side i.e. two lefts or two rights????

 

post #7 of 23
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Yep, I have two left skis. Sounds like with a centered remount they could be entertaining, though most of my powder days are tree skiing. Maybe a Back Bowl ski. Or just trade them for something useful.

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Do they look like someone skied them like that?  I'd plug them and re-mount them if I were you.  Heck, depending on how long they are I'll buy them for $25.00 plus shipping as I don't own anything over 99 under foot.  Fact is, I probably don't "need" a ski that fat but would pay fifty bucks for it anyway even if I do need to fill it and drill it again. 

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They've been skied, some topsheet scratching, though the bases are perfect. I'll keep you in mind if I decide to dump them. Ever get to CO?

post #10 of 23
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So I brought them home to remount and here's another interesting tidbit. The bindings are designed for the offcenter mount as well. The brake arms are different lengths. And I have two left brakes.

post #11 of 23

The former owner must have been a heck of a dancer  

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The former owner must have been a heck of a dancer  

 

 

Steve, it will be a very long time before I see Colorado unfortunately.  I think you should keep them. They would be great first dump rock skis in your neck of the woods at the very least.  But, if you ever need to clear space and still have them and a cardboard ski box lying around think of me

post #13 of 23

Why are all the fat skis of that era mounted with M51s anyway?

 

 

What was the first Look brake over 80mm wide?

post #14 of 23
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The former owner must have been a heck of a dancer  


I'm thinking it's the perfect setup for powder days on a volcano mountain that you can ski 360. Just start making a left turn and never stop until you're at the bottom.

I'm doing the remount and will take them out next Nov on that first big day at Vail.

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Steve, Axioms are my all-time favorite skis ever.  Mount them NOW and ski them all spring...they absolutely kill the corn and manky snow.  You'd be surprised but the funkier the snow the more they shine.

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Well it didn't take very long for the perfect Axiom day after all. The Basin reported 15" this morning and I'll swear it snowed another 8" easily while we were there. It was powder heaven. On April 17!!!

 

I remounted these centered and to be honest was a bit afraid to ski them. They just looked big and straight and didn't flex all that easily. I put my Atuas in the car just in case. First run untracked. I was thinking they had lied about the snow report, it felt like 3", until I stopped and sank to my knees. These things float very easily, and turning was almost effortless. Nothing like I expected. Rest of the morning I hit everything and they never failed to please. Killed it in the crud. Soft bumps no problem. I always felt like maybe someone heavier could work them even better but I still liked them a lot. The last run before lunch my son was struggling in the heaver stuff in Zuma bowl and since he outweighs me by about 40lbs I told him to take the Axioms after lunch. A little demo binding work and he was good to go. It was like watching him be transformed. This is a burley ski with a lot of metal in it (I know I drilled them myself). He goes about 230 and was a perfect match for it.  I will not get to use them again as he laid claim to them. What a great deal. If you ever need a cheap pow ski and you're a big guy hook up a pair of these. They may be 10 years old but they still work.

post #17 of 23

 Nothing more to say but 

 

Perhaps I'll see them in action next time I'm out there, eh?

post #18 of 23
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If you promise a day like today I'll be happy to show up with anything I got.

 

I think tomorrow will be a replay, it's still snowing.

post #19 of 23

Fantastic 

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That's great, I love hearing stuff like this!  I was afraid of these too when I first got them and they turned out to be so much easier to ski than I anticipated...and they blew the doors off my 186 LPs in every condition and they became my everyday ride.  They are so surfy and are really quick edge-to-edge for a wide ski - yet crank them way over at speed and they snap you back in a nice smooth predictable way.  Here (sierras) we get a lot of manky snow & refrozen top layers and wind crusts...the axioms make all that stuff feel smoooooth.  In really warm spring conditions (which is for ~3 months a year here) I've found no rival, seriously.

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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post

What a great deal. If you ever need a cheap pow ski and you're a big guy hook up a pair of these. They may be 10 years old but they still work.

Your's was a sick deal - all 3 pairs I've bought have cost me $100 - though 2 came with 977 Equipes.  I think they work for medium size guys too...and I think they're more like 15-16 years old ;-)



 

 

post #21 of 23
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So we went to Breck today and my son took the Axioms. There was about a foot of untracked at the top but it was heavy stuff as it had set for a day. I was having to really work to ski it on my Atuas and my son just tore it up on the Axioms. I've never seen him handle tough snow better.

 

15 years, I wasn't sure exactly how old they were. What other 15 year old ski would anyone pay $100 for?

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15 years, I wasn't sure exactly how old they were. What other 15 year old ski would anyone pay $100 for?


Quite a few..but not not to many that I would want to ski. 

 

You have one of those few diamonds in the rough that just transcend time. 

post #23 of 23

This was a fun read! Congratulations on your find.

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