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Review: 2010 Elan 1010 183cm

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 About me: 5 foot 9, 155lbs, fairly athletic skier, typically 50-60 days/year, can ski most conditions. 

 

Ski reviewed: Elan 1010, the 2010 model, 183cm, mounted with demo SP130 bindings.  The ski has a big tip, moderate flex, 2 sheets of metal, and a flat tail.  Quite a bit of contact length for a wide ski such as this, so it skis true to length.  140/110/130, 23m radius.

 

Conditions: up to 8" of fresh, hard crust, firm bumps with soft snow in the troughs, some ice and death cookies, crud here and there.

 

Review: This ski feels like the big brother of the 888. It has that smooth, stable, responsive, somewhat energetic yet big-ski feel to it.  Very good in variable snow conditions: it made me a better skier in dust on crust, as I wasn't breaking through and found the ski's response to death cookies to be very predictable.  This is a great crud ski, it powers through it and makes skiing crud easy.  Bumps are also very easy on this ski: it has a moderate flex and not much sidecut, so it bends up and is predictable.  In the newer, deeper snow, it kept me up a bit more than a narrower ski would have done, and kept me floating. I found the initiation to be just as I would like: it turned when I asked it to, and didn't have the floppy tip feel of much of the rockered stuff.  It just surfed up on top of the softer snow, and as soon as I was ready to relax and release, it floated through the transition and onto new edges. This isn't a back-seat driver's ski: it likes to run away from you if you aren't committed to the turn, and I wouldn't put lower level skiers on it.  Definitely solid skills are required of this ski. Those who liked rockered stuff because they can get away with back-seat driving will hate this ski.  This skis nothing like a rockered ski: It doesn't initiate automatically, but instead take a solid release to bring it from it's old edge set, so in that sense isn't as "easy" of a ski. But, it is more stable in variable snow and feels much more like a regular ski (which is a good thing, IMO) than any rocker I have yet tried (which tend to give up stability in crud and that feel of really engaging the tip and pulling you into the turn, in exchange for ease of use and a less demanding feel).  I did take it on some wind-blown ice (left over from the last day's warm spell) and it is a poor ice ski. I could survive, but it doesn't rail like a narrower, more sporty ski, and isn't a whole lot of fun on ice.  Not really a surprise. 

 

Comparisons: being that I have skied somewhat similar skis recently, but they were all on different days, it is hard to say exactly how they line up.  I can say that this ski impressed me greatly, and stability seemed on par with the Huge Trouble and Answer, maybe a bit ahead of the Sidestash.  On less deep snow and variable conditions, this was up there with the HT, ahead of the others, and since I haven't tried it in truly deep snow, I can't say if it is better or worse there. But, I bet it would hold it's own. 

 

Conclusion: this is a very, very good ski. They got the flex right, as well as the lateral stiffness, and it seems to be a very competent wide all-around ski for the good skier.  Very versatile, and could be the wide ski of a 2-ski quiver, perfect for days of 6-8" of fresh and more.  Kevin thought the 999 and 1010 were 2 of the best 5 skis he tried at the Snowbasin demo, and I can see why. 

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Great Review, Dawg.

 

After skiing this ski w/ Scott when he came down to Squaw, I was super surprised.

I haven't found a ski over 101 yet that really works well for me,

but,

this one did.

yep, maybe it has 2 sheets of metal, but it was more friendly, and I thought softer then my watea 101.

 

the tip shape is great, and the soft tip just comes up out of anything.

the tail design they nailed as well,

by cutting off the corners and not much turn up, it skis cleanly, doesn't catch on the other tail or wash out like so many of the big twins, but it doesn't penalize you like the totally square tails.

 

overall, the best ski over 101mm I've skied. I like my 101, but it feels like more of a wide all mtn. ski, while this a super fun, versatile pow ski. even w/o any rocker, i could drift this ski in the heavy wet muck we were skiing, but it would give me the more traditional sensations of bending and rebounding out as well.

 

GREAT ski, and once again, will probably stay off the radar as Elan tends to do.

 

yep, i know i have a problem, but dawgs ordering me one...

 

cheers,

holiday


Edited by Holiday - 4/12/2009 at 06:04 pm GMT
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Scott, I know you are not a rockered tip/tail fan but for comparison, which have you skied? Jsut curious. I wasn't thrilled with the Obsethed but loved the HB. did not feel it was floppy at all.

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

Scott, I know you are not a rockered tip/tail fan but for comparison, which have you skied? Jsut curious. I wasn't thrilled with the Obsethed but loved the HB. did not feel it was floppy at all.


Have skied: Hellbent, 2010 Answer, 2010 Sidestash and Hardside, 2010 Gotama, Praxis Powder, probably some others that I skied last spring as well but have forgotten.  Not sure if you were asking about tip only or tip-tail.  Regarding tip-tail, I didn't care for the lack of contact length feel and really turny feel in moderate conditions and crud, but in ridiculously deep snow, I am sure they would be just the ticket.  A set of Pontoons would be great to have for that 2-3 days a year where it truly rules.  We have lots of heavy snow here, when it gets cut up and you are skiing fast, you need a powerful ski in order to avoid getting bounced around.  I would probably grab a DP Pro if I had to pick one, which is about as opposite of a HB as you could choose. 

 

Might want to direct this question at Holiday: he has skied more soft snow skis in the past 2 months than I have in the past 2 years: being out with a broken leg will do that to you.

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Thanks Dawg! Good input. As Said before I like the technology. Like most of us, its tough to demo skis like these and then even tougher to demo in the right conditions. I do get a bunch of powder days in so having a dedicated board like this makes sense to me. I will search for info on that sidestash/hardside as well as others and see what I can do to at least learna bit more for next season. I really wish that Icelantic board would be out. Really impressed with the HB. BTW, do you know where they were mounted when you demoed the HB? Makes huge difference

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

Thanks Dawg! Good input. As Said before I like the technology. Like most of us, its tough to demo skis like these and then even tougher to demo in the right conditions. I do get a bunch of powder days in so having a dedicated board like this makes sense to me. I will search for info on that sidestash/hardside as well as others and see what I can do to at least learna bit more for next season. I really wish that Icelantic board would be out. Really impressed with the HB. BTW, do you know where they were mounted when you demoed the HB? Makes huge difference

Had a demo binding, and it put it toward the rear of the ski-able range, but I don't remember exactly where I was at. Do you like more forward or rearward?  I found I was overpowering the ski pretty easily where I was skiing it, at least in the chunky snow I was trying it in.

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That mounting point is critical on the HB, no less than +6 and I would even be up for a +7. Keep in mind, the CS on that ski is +7.5. You can't really over power that tip. with the 20/40 and being 150 wide, it's next to impossible.

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

That mounting point is critical on the HB, no less than +6 and I would even be up for a +7. Keep in mind, the CS on that ski is +7.5. You can't really over power that tip. with the 20/40 and being 150 wide, it's next to impossible.


I'm going off on a tangent, here. I would suggest using a demo or Railflex binding on your next powder ski. This might contradict the usual bomber binding that people normally use on wide skis, but being able to easily change the mounting point location is very important.

 

I mounted Railflex RF14 on my Watea 101 with the plan of changing to a Look PX15 once I decided on the best location. The RF 14 work flawlessly and ski great, so I sold the PX15's I had. I also like that I can remove the binding for air travel. The RF14 is the best binding for the ski, IMO.

 

Scott installed Tyrolia SP 130's on my Praxis. I can change the mounting point in seconds without tools, even easier than the RF14's. It's a beefy 13 DIN binding that looks great on the ski.

 

Most Praxis users like the mounting point further back than what the factory recommends. I'll have the ability to determine this based on skiing experience.

 

 

 


Edited by WILDCAT - 4/25/2009 at 04:03 pm GMT
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jeez,
all this talk of rocker skis in the 1010 thread.... what's up w/ that :).

first pow day of the year, 2plus feet on top of man made. sweet.

the 1010 is the best pow ski I've ever skied, no question!
i've had some wide ones, and some rockers, and skied many others: this one is great!

Once again, tip shape is magic, always wants to stay nuetral, no dive, but not overly insistent on comeing to the top either, like so many rockers. that trait in rockers, while good sometimes, can be irritating. nobody hates skis that dive in pow, but not everyone likes skis that are always climbing either... the 1010 is beautifully neutral, predicatable and fun.

it stays fun all day, too.  carving up the cut up, bumpy groomed back to the car was actually fun, not crappy survival skiddy turns like so many 110mm plus skis..

ski press reviewed this and said something like, lighter weight experts finally have a pow ski made for them. i weigh 168 at 6ft, and this skis flex is right on the money for me.

cheers,
holiday
Edited by Holiday - 12/8/09 at 2:25pm
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