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I bought them on line, and when I got them?  I didn't like the look?  If you like the converse chuck look these are for you.  So I never even tried them on, only took them out of the plastic to take a photo.  I paid $179.00 and shipping so, I am open to offers?  I will never use them it will be a true shame to let them sit in my closet. Let me know, sierradreamn@gmail.comNew boots