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How much do boots effect skiing?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
How much does a boot effect skiing. A fitted boot to a not-great-fitting one? Thanks!
post #2 of 17
More than any other piece of equipment... the boots can ruin, or escalate, your skiing experience. Boots are the connector between your body and the skis. If the messages don't get transmitted, then even if you know what to do, the skis may not respond. At higher speeds, this lack of response can be deadly. on the other hand, wonderful energy transmission can make carving seem like childs play.

post #3 of 17
I would further add, that you should consider getting custom made footbeds, and get an alignment. you will need a good boot fitter to accomplish this.

happy New year and of course happy skiing
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I would say my boots are not the best fitting boots in the world for me. They are too loose and stuff. I will get it checked out asap. -shea
post #5 of 17
If you have a chance to get into NY, you might consider using Surefoot. I've been very happy with the work they've done. You can have everything you need done there. If the boots are right for you, then it's 175 for the complete fitting, plus 50$ per boot for sole grinds (which by the way make a huge difference). If you need new boots... add another $600. But, you can keep good boots for five years, so get it right. The money will be very well spent. In order of importance... Boots, Boot fitting, skiing lessons, skis, long johns, then bindings. Yes that's right, I think underwear is more important than bindings.
post #6 of 17
The most important thing here is (IMHO)heel lift and an overall snug fit.

If your boots are a reasonable fit they can (and should do this at no charge), snug them up. At the heel this is done by cutting an upside down U of sticky foam and tacking it onto the liner. The same can be done along the arch with thinner strips.

Since you are growing, try a different sock to take up some of the room without cramping. Something like a thor-lo heavy, that has extra padding may do it. My boots are fitted to these socks and I absolutley can't ski with anything lighter.
post #7 of 17
I'm convinced that we get more skiing improvement for the money from boot fitting than any other way. I can ski well in my properly fitted boots and any old junky ski. I can't ski worth a darn in sloppy fitting boots and the best skis.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
I definetly need to look into this except I am growing and if I do get teh boots fitted, I would want to get new ones, for teh ones I have now are a little to flexy( I will keep them for freestyle or something).

What are good boots under 400 that are prety stiff( this can be a sale price)-thanks!

post #9 of 17
With the new shaped skis, you don't need boots that are as stiff as we used to need. You want boots that flex a little. Consider this before you go spending money.
Note that a good orthodic can often be moved from one boot to the next. Get the current boots fitted properly and ski in them for a bit. If you find after the fitting that the flexibility is still hurting your skiing, then replace the boots. This way you only spend the 400$ if you really need to.

post #10 of 17

Perhaps this will be a good indicator of how important good, comfortable boots are to me. I just spent $700 on boots and orthodics from Surefoot. I'm spending $350 on my first set of skis, bindings and poles.

My thinking is that if you ain't comfortable, it doesn't matter what kind of performance you're getting from your equipment. It has to be enjoyable.

Disclaimer: I'm just getting back into skiing after several years off, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about.
post #11 of 17
Nordica has several boots designed for women.And my wife has a pair of Nordica's Next Boot and has had good results.This year Nordica has the T 3.1 w/flex of 45.
post #12 of 17
S-B, How important are boots? Would you ski in bindings that barely held on to your boots? Would you ski on skis that had bindings that were held on by one or two screws? Or bindings that were tilted in or out? Damn, Son ( or Daughter) it is all part of the linkage?! If your feet are swimming in your boots, your skis are likely to be swimming on your boots.
post #13 of 17
Without doubt I think that the boots are the most important piece of equipment. Most skis today are all pretty good but what controls the ski and the point of communication are the boots. If I had one piece of equipment to buy it would be the best boots I could afford and then just demo skis. Good Luck.
post #14 of 17
Listen, the point here is not to say that Bindings, Ski's and poles are unimportant. However, on average, people do not spend enough time finding the right boots and getting them fitted properly. In general, if you buy new skis and bindings and work with a reputable tech, the setup will be fine.
If you have the right boots, skis, and bindings, but the boots are uncomfortable... you'll never be able to ski well. It's that simple. Boots are the only piece that requires complex customization after purchase. Ski's - they get waxed and edged in a Montana. Bindings - some grease, and checking the DIN settings (which don't often change for the same individual). Boots - there is so much that should be done, it's not even funny. But, somehow people just don't spend the time.

post #15 of 17
GF, I was trying to illustrate to Shea-bird the boot importance using the other parts as example of how important the linkage is to good skiing.
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone! This was a big help. I am definetly going to look into a boot-fitting very soon. -shea
post #17 of 17

By the way, a good fitting usually requires about three visits. The first day is for boot selection, orthodic creation, measuerment of pressure points and tight volume sections, addition of foam to take up volume where necessary, check for alignment issues.

The second day is to check on the blow outs and dremmeling that have been done, do a little more dremmeling where necessary, recheck alignment (Sole and cuff).

The third meeting should be after you've ski'd in the boots at least two days (preferably more unless you're in pain), and have worn them at home at least five times (10 minutes at a time or more). The more you wear the boots at home, the more comfortable they will be when you ski in them for the first time.

You want to make sure not to do too much until after the ski days. The heel of the liner will pack in, the placement of the foot in the boot will move back, and the result may be a fit that is roomier in the mid-foot and toe box. If you are comfortable before the packing in, you may be swimming after the liner compresses. Especially in high level boots, deal with a tight fit for a few days (as long as there are no serious pressure points). If the boot was shell fit, it will get a touch more comfortable, but your foot won't have room to move in it while you're skiing.

Happy fitting,
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