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Assume I am masochist enough to want to do this over the summer.   

 

What kind of glide is conceivably possible?    Waxable or pattern bases?

 

I'd love to be able to repurpose some '80s vintage teleskis for summer goofiness.

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Pattern bases? Would have to be fish scale.

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Bill Koch was raving about it a few years ago.  He tried to get the US team to come train in Hawaii, insisting that whoever recognized the potential would kick ass next winter in the World Cup.  They respectfully declined. (I'm not making this up!)

 

I hear they go waxless on racing skis.  Enough kick for classic and enough glide for laborious skating.  I haven't tried it, but I assume the glide is just good enough to make it possible, and just bad enough that it is no fun.

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Bill Koch was raving about it a few years ago.  He tried to get the US team to come train in Hawaii, insisting that whoever recognized the potential would kick ass next winter in the World Cup.  They respectfully declined. (I'm not making this up!)

 

 

Yeah, right. If you were to invent a story to make sure I went through with this you couldn't do better.

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I hear they go waxless on racing skis.  Enough kick for classic and enough glide for laborious skating.  I haven't tried it, but I assume the glide is just good enough to make it possible, and just bad enough that it is no fun.

Been thinking about the possible role of the center groove here.

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Talk about abrasiveness, suction and resistance training.    Cool.....feel the burn.

 

Is this about wet or dry sand or both? Go patterned bases tele and ski the dunes while you are at it.

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Is this about wet or dry sand or both? Go patterned bases tele and ski the dunes while you are at it.

 

Wet sand mostly.  Some of it's even machine raked in the early am.    No decent dunes without a drive down to Kitty Hawk/KDH.

 

 

Ever been on your Chugaches on really, really thin snow?   I'm kinda hoping that the above racers were a little bit blinkered by the race experience into using skinny skis, and that I can get more floaty glide on the wider sticks.



Edited by comprex - 4/7/2009 at 02:35 pm
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Along with more 'float' you have more surface area to generate more friction resistance as well, correct? The groove idea may help with suction reduction. Like boogie boarding, on thin water, a wider ski might give some skimming benefit.

 

One nord here says: "If there's frost. I'm skatin'." Not sure this applies to beach skating, but seems like it'll be a balance between the resistance and how much force you have to generate. Sounds interesting and I'm curious how it goes. Roller skiing would be on my preferred list however, because you can simply roll that gives similar sensation to gliding, plus you can get a great skate workout....

 

I have yet to head over to the Great Sand Dunes and give a try at skiing. It looks fun and have to try it some day with hard wax.....

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Actually found some stuff on Koch:

 

Bill Koch and Sandskiing

Before realizing that sand could be fast, Bill sandskied as a special high-intensity "gorrilla" workout, on temperate, SLOW beaches in New England, Oregon, and New Zealand. In October '97 when Bill brought skis to Maui, he was blown away by how slippery the sand was. He now lives in Hawaii and relishes being able to ski any day of the year!

In 1998, Bill coached a team of three nationally ranked "pioneering women" using sandskiing as the centerpiece of an experimental fall training program on Maui and Moloka'i.

In the Fall of 2000, the first "sandskiing safari" brought 20 enthusiastic Alaskans to Moloka'i for a week of skiing. One day the sand was so fast that two novice women skated the length of Papohaku beach without poles!

 

 

http://www.crosscountryskier.com/features_no_snow_oct_2002.html

 

http://sports.jrank.org/pages/2583/Koch-Bill-Sand-Skiing.html

 

Looks like his sandski website is no more.


Edited by newfydog - 4/7/2009 at 10:50 pm
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Not very promising for quartz sands  :(

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