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Dollar a run!

post #1 of 26
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Did something today that I have not been able to accomplish since somewhere around 1975.    When we were in high school and college we used to try to get enough runs in to make the cost per run a dollar a run or less. 

 

Jiminy Peak in those days was a 12 dollar day ticket on Sundays and Brodie had a college weekday---night ticket for I think 8 or 9 dollars.  It was fairly easy to get under a dollar a run.

 

In this day of 80 dollar day tickets that has not been possible at all.  Today Jiminy had an E coupon for 10 dollars for the day and I got in just over 3 hours and 12 runs to get down to about 83 cents a run!

 

I think I'm done now for the year!

post #2 of 26

Heh, I remember $10 Monday nights at Brodie when I was in college (87-91).  We got our money's worth then, but it was usually COLD as heck. 

post #3 of 26

paying for lift tickets is so overrated!

post #4 of 26
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paying for lift tickets is so overrated!

I had a long reply that is floating 'round cyberspace somewhere
 

 

I usually get way more free days (as a relative % of days away from my home hill)  than this year, but due to circumstances beyond my control I had to pay for most of my away days this season.

 

1 comp at Mt Hood in June

1 free stratton on a text message givaway

2 ecoupon days at Jiminy peak total 35

3 days at Bellayre total 85

1 each at Snow King, Gran Targhee and JH approximately 175

 

call it 10 days and 300 for tickets

 

plus 40 or more at home hill for 'free'

 

 

post #5 of 26

Well, I won a free pass, so that is $0 per run.  But if I had paid, Loveland would have been $56 for 16 runs, equals $3.50 per run.  Still pretty good.

 

Here's the altitude log.  I also noticed it says I covered 54 linear kilometers -- that surprised me.

 

 

post #6 of 26
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perhaps I wasn;t clear, has to be a day that actually cost ticket window money.

 

post #7 of 26

I think it could be done at a place like Ski Sundown in Connecticut, 550 vertical feet, even at the full price of $50.  I managed 17 runs there in 3 hours, and a faster skier could have easily done 20.  So if you were in really good shape and stayed for the night session, you could probably do 50 runs.

 

Anybody know a place with a short high-speed quad, a cheap ticket and night skiing? There are probably quite a few in Michigan.

post #8 of 26


 

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Originally Posted by skier_j View Post

 

perhaps I wasn;t clear, has to be a day that actually cost ticket window money.

 

That's why I put in the "if I had paid" clause.  I know $3.50 is more than $1, but I think maybe $2 run might be a more reasonable goal these days.
 

 

I'd need somewhere with faster chairs or shorter runs even to get to 2, let alone 1.

I could probably do $1/run at Ski Bradford -- vertical is in the 100 or 200 foot range -- but the chairs are real slow.  My son claims the t-bar is faster than the chairs, when they run it.

post #9 of 26

Wintergreen VA has 1000ft vertical and a fast chair with ~ 4 minute rides to the top.  I used to easily hit 50-60 runs on a weekday before I got all serious about technique/equipment/etc.  Their weekday pass costs between $39 and $49 a day depending on when you go, so that would definitely work out to less than a dollar a run.  

 

I normally put in about 10-11 days a season at Wintergreen, so estimating conservatively, the $200 season pass works out to about 50 cents a run.  Not too bad at all.  Too bad it costs $35 in gas for each round trip to the mountain!  Still better than last season, when it was over $50.....

post #10 of 26

 

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I think it could be done at a place like Ski Sundown in Connecticut, 550 vertical feet, even at the full price of $50.  I managed 17 runs there in 3 hours, and a faster skier could have easily done 20.  So if you were in really good shape and stayed for the night session, you could probably do 50 runs.

 

 

when they're running the lifts at full or almost speed, you cant easily get 8-10 runs/hr at Sundown. It's a 5-6 minute ride and a 1 minute ski.

Actually, the couple times I've skied all day (8-5) at Sundown this year and counted runs, I've had run totals in the 70s ... and that's with a 20 minute lunch break and some lines in the afternoon ... though to be fair I don't pay the $50 full day price.

 

And for accuracy sake ... Sundown is 625 vertical feet ... or they claim to be.

post #11 of 26
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I'd need somewhere with faster chairs or shorter runs even to get to 2, let alone 1.

I could probably do $1/run at Ski Bradford -- vertical is in the 100 or 200 foot range -- but the chairs are real slow.  My son claims the t-bar is faster than the chairs, when they run it.


 

That was the key!  Jiminy claims about 1100 feet I think, place was not at all crowded -- ski right on to their fastest lift--- a 6 pack--no lines no waiting.

post #12 of 26
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Wintergreen VA has 1000ft vertical and a fast chair with ~ 4 minute rides to the top.  I used to easily hit 50-60 runs on a weekday before I got all serious about technique/equipment/etc.  Their weekday pass costs between $39 and $49 a day depending on when you go, so that would definitely work out to less than a dollar a run.  

 

I normally put in about 10-11 days a season at Wintergreen, so estimating conservatively, the $200 season pass works out to about 50 cents a run.  Not too bad at all.  Too bad it costs $35 in gas for each round trip to the mountain!  Still better than last season, when it was over $50.....

any body want to try the math for Skiing - In - Jacksons 7 year old daughter who just joined the 100 days club at JH??
 

 

got her moneys worth from that pass eh??

 

yeeps! 

post #13 of 26

This thread is timely as I've been wondering what I was going to do for my 50th next year.  One of the thoughts was 50 runs; non stop (except for unions breaks to use the facilities and rehydrate).  If I go this route I'll need to be careful to select the right mountain.  It would probably be at Crotched.

 

I did consider doing 50 NASTAR runs but it takes over 2 hours to get in 15 runs, is exhausting and most around here are only open for 3-4 hours.  Maybe 50 in a weekend?

 

 

post #14 of 26

I was able to do $1 per run at Mt Hood Meadows a couple years ago.  They do $15 (used to be $10) friday nights, so you can easily get 15 runs in at a buck a run.  Not sure what the price is for the friday night ticket these days as I've moved away from Portland.

post #15 of 26


 

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Originally Posted by bruins14sammy View Post

 

And for accuracy sake ... Sundown is 625 vertical feet ... or they claim to be.


 

What does accuracy have to do with claimed vertical?

post #16 of 26

 

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paying for lift tickets is so overrated!

 

Hear, hear

post #17 of 26

Well, it's easily possible to have a buck a run if you buy a season pass.  For instance, I paid $535 for my pass and I see I made 544 runs.  Average vert per run was 1686.  And this was with a bum knee.  I would guess that most of the Bears with season passes would find they did even better than that.  For instance, in my last "full health/full season" year, I paid $429 for a lift ticket and made 977 runs, averaging 1781 feet per run.

 

 

post #18 of 26

in high school and middle school (park city high school, utah, class of 04), i used to get a seasons pass to the canyons (free with honor roll) and park city ($99 student pass).

 

on a per-run basis, im pretty sure i got my moneys worth...or actually i got my mom's moneys worth

post #19 of 26

I used to try to do the same thing.  It isn't too hard to do at a place like Boyne, with high-speed chairs and only 500-600 ft of vertical, even with a weekend ticket running close to $60.

 

But, nowadays I try something more modest, like trying to get my price down to less than 1/2 of one cent or even 1/3 of one cent for every vertical foot skied.

post #20 of 26

 

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I used to try to do the same thing.  It isn't too hard to do at a place like Boyne, with high-speed chairs and only 500-600 ft of vertical, even with a weekend ticket running close to $60.

 

But, nowadays I try something more modest, like trying to get my price down to less than 1/2 of one cent or even 1/3 of one cent for every vertical foot skied.

 

Aaaghh...it cost me

$0.000583247939222679

per foot.....  I think...  Calculator refused to answer the question.....

post #21 of 26

I skied at Mad River Mountain in Zanesfield, Ohio for $5 a day all season.  This included a lift ticket, rental boots/skis/poles and a group lesson (every day).  This was for active duty military personnel (and is only about an hour and fifteen minutes from Wright-Patterson AFB, OH).  I still question why I only got 10 days of skiing in for a grand total $50.  Oh, and with night skiing and going mid-week, my group lessons turned into private lessons, so I went from never being on skis to slarving linked parallel turns all over the "mountain" (300 ft verticle).  So I guess that makes my runs around 25 cents or less!  (no high speed chairs) 

 

http://www.skimadriver.com/

post #22 of 26

Hakkoda, Japan.

 

No piste. No Grooming. No rules.

 

4000' vert.

 

1 Tram. 11$ per ride.

 

Deal with it.

post #23 of 26

Well for the year it will have cost me a little over $6 per day (that day at Big Sky really drove up the average), but many were short days, so it would likely come out not too much less than a dollar per run.

post #24 of 26

I usually have run some skiconomics in the back of my mind.  I used to try to keep the ski day lift ticket price around $10.00 per hour.  If I pay $45.00 at  8:30 am I try to ski until at least 2:30 pm, taking a very quick break.    If lift lines are short I can usually get a 1,000' vert lap in in around 10 minutes so that would be five per hour conservatibely.  That works out to two bucks per run I suppose (not including the 30 + gallons of gasoline, food, GEAR, etc..). 

 

Over the next couple of years I'll be taking my kids along so all bets are off.  But I can identify with the quest to quantify how many greenbacks skiing cost at the most microeconomic level.  Everybody likes to reduce cognitie dissonance.

post #25 of 26


 

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Heh, I remember $10 Monday nights at Brodie when I was in college (87-91).  We got our money's worth then, but it was usually COLD as heck. 


 

Dang man, you old!!   I was born in 86....

 

 

And yes, I agree with BWPA, paying is overrated...

post #26 of 26

 

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Dang man, you old!!   I was born in 86....

 

 

Heh, I was once young and foolish like you -- watch out!  Of course, I am still a babe compared to Methuselah, er, I mean jimmy .

 

I do feel proud to have gone through my formative years skiing when neon was the rage.  Still have my bright yellow Kastles in the garage...

 

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