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post #31 of 58


 

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Originally Posted by dwoof2 View Post

 

All of my poles are laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

 

 

:D

 

 


 

You are holding them the wrong way.

(also, be careful, an incorrect grip can make you go blind)

post #32 of 58

I am  very interested in the custom grip-fit system, Which method are you using? A insta-print type or a foam injection reverse mold technique?  As mentioned before by "Epic", are these rotary grips? Also, can I get a bottle opener built-in to the grip?
 

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I have just opened a new shop, The Grip Pro.

I will be taking orders for custom molded grips with or without custom gloves.

Please sign up now for next season.

I am also beta testing the Wintesteiger pole tip beveler.

I will also be demoing the reverse camber helmet that serves as a rain gauge.These will be fitted by a trained phrenologist


 

post #33 of 58

 

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I will also be demoing the reverse camber helmet that serves as a rain gauge.These will be fitted by a trained phrenologist

 

 

Bah.   Totally unnecessary.    You can do just as well if not better with a home oven and a trephine.

post #34 of 58

What you guys are missing here is the CRITICAL pre-race prep.  I find that brass brushing is too severe so I stick to nylon and horse hair prior to wax application.  As most racers are only planting at the start, the focus shouldn't be on the tip, but rather on the shaft.

 

Another factor is how to approximate temp.  I'm in a night race leauge, so the cross-blocking release wax needs to match projected AIR temp rather than SNOW temp!  Always plan for five degrees colder than the base wax you use for a given day. 

 

Also, gates are abrasive - you're going to need two to three additional applications unless the gates are brand new.

 

 

The good news is that there is no water contact on gates, so you don't need the expensive HF racing wax.

post #35 of 58

My friend Gary asked me to post this

 

"Certainly they should be tested and calibrated in a wind tunnel for minimal wind deflection and maximum slipstream aerodynamics"

 

 

post #36 of 58

What about pole quivers?

What is the difference in  calibration for steep and deep, in comparison to groomer zoomers? 

post #37 of 58

Wow, that's really advanced since the weight and balance is so dependent on the width, weight and drag created by the basket really comes into play. Also, are you a flicker or a planter???

post #38 of 58

When it comes to poles I have a gentle touch.  

post #39 of 58


 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 

What about pole quivers?

What is the difference in  calibration for steep and deep, in comparison to groomer zoomers? 


 

Hmmm, skiing moguls makes my hands hurt. Is there an All-Mountain calibration that would be better to make my hands not hurt?

post #40 of 58

 

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Hmmm, skiing moguls makes my hands hurt. Is there an All-Mountain calibration that would be better to make my hands not hurt?

I'd have to defer to our experts in this field, but I believe that has more to do with Grip than anything, although the sensation you get from the pole touch may be effected by the material the pole itself is made of.

Hopefully one of our experts on this topic will weigh in.

 

post #41 of 58
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 

 

I'd have to defer to our experts in this field, but I believe that has more to do with Grip than anything, although the sensation you get from the pole touch may be effected by the material the pole itself is made of.

Hopefully one of our experts on this topic will weigh in.

 

The true giants of the pole calibration world are currently attending the month long seminars on the said topic. The answers to these questions are too in depth for the mere mortal skier to be able to comprehend in their rawest form. 

post #42 of 58

 

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Originally Posted by jimmy View Post

 

 Is there an All-Mountain calibration that would be better to make my hands not hurt?

 

Up in the Tetons, yes.

post #43 of 58

you need the new iguana-skin grips, they are money....

post #44 of 58


 

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Originally Posted by jimmy View Post

 

Hmmm, skiing moguls makes my hands hurt. Is there an All-Mountain calibration that would be better to make my hands not hurt?



 

I replied:

 you need the new iguana-skin grips, they are money....


 

post #45 of 58

Our own GWskier, a vector physicist, has recently applied for a patent concerning pole calibration.  Something about  the "triangle" theory of carbon flex versus aluminum as applied to ski poles......

post #46 of 58

 

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

Wow, that's really advanced since the weight and balance is so dependent on the width, weight and drag created by the basket really comes into play. Also, are you a flicker or a planter???


Flicker, cept when in the Tetons then i tend to plant. Iguana-skin?...........oh my
 

post #47 of 58

My thoughts on the subject.

 

post #48 of 58

If you don't want your hands to hurt - well then obviously you have to have your Gloves Calibrated.

 

Interested people can call a Good massage therapist.

 

Or if you want to get a real hand massage then ...................................... while calibrating.

post #49 of 58
Thread Starter 

 

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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post

My thoughts on the subject.

 

The sign of a true non believer. 

post #50 of 58

  Oh No,


 

I just got done explaining to the wife why I needed another pair of skis a few weeks ago.  Now I have to have a quiver of poles also. 

post #51 of 58

What is the best way to set up your poles for summer storage?  I normally hang mine.  But I wonder, tips up or down?

post #52 of 58

 

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Originally Posted by T-Square View Post

What is the best way to set up your poles for summer storage?  I normally hang mine.  But I wonder, tips up or down?


This question probably belongs here so I pasted it there for you.  Mods, could we merge these threads?

Dialing down bindings for summer...

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/83407/dialing-down-bindings-for-summer-storage#post_1093603

post #53 of 58

For summer storage try using as plant stakes for the tomatos.  Very green too. 

post #54 of 58

It's best to have your tip beveled by an experienced moyel.

post #55 of 58

 

 

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

We have our boots aligned and skis balanced but we never talk about getting the poles properly set up to match the rest of the equipment set up. What pole flex should you use in relationship to ski and/or boot flex? Can skinny (carbon/graphite) poles be used with fat skis? Vice versa, can fat aluminum poles be used with a race ski (under 70mm)? Should the poles be calibrated every year when you have your DIN checked? Is there a relationship to DIN and a proper pole calibration? Should shops charge more for calibrating poles that were purchased on-line vs. poles that were purchased in their store?

 

Please share your thoughts. 


My thoughts are this, I'm going to think about this all off season and give my answer next Fall.
 

 

( Is this a trick question Phil?)

post #56 of 58

 

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Originally Posted by nolo View Post

Lou brought his MacGregor Balancer as well as his patented FlexScan(tm). Bud made do with one of the Huntley bath towels to file away the excess and reveal what he called "the soul of the pole."

I was impressed with the creative use of supplies by Bud to find the soul.

 

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Originally Posted by ragin' cajun' View Post

Our own GWskier, a vector physicist, has recently applied for a patent concerning pole calibration.  Something about  the "triangle" theory of carbon flex versus aluminum as applied to ski poles......


Where is GW on this topic? I thought he was going to work with the panel of experts.  Perhaps he's tied up at the international convention of Pole Calibration

post #57 of 58

Bump;

 

I'm still looking for some tutorials on how to set the DIN for my breakaway straps.  Did anybody ever find the link?th_dunno-1[1].gif

post #58 of 58

I had a great link from over at Utube but I can't find it now. It was really sweet, a step-by-step guide, easy to use, took only a few minutes per pole. If I can find dig it up, I will post.  On another note, I skied this weekend on the poles that Start Haus calibrated, WOW!  what a difference, I could really tell the difference on the first run.....

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