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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hey guys!

Since I'm new here, I'm going to toss my newbie card and ask-what's up with all the hatin' on Atomic skis?

 

Not that I'm going to ditch my skis, I love them, but my final decision was between them and Salomons (not Xscreams) and I want to know why owning them qualifies me as a gaper-I mean, even Bode loved Atomics before he decided they "sucked"...

post #2 of 21

Atomic skis foam core and short lifespan compared to nice wood core skis. 

post #3 of 21

I have a pair of Tele Daddies and a pair of Januks, both are the same ski with different top sheets.  Both are 173?.  One is a tele set up and the other has a Fritzie Free Ride.  I also have an older pair of Sugar Daddies in the mid 180 range.  All of these skis are OK, but not great.  I think its the foam core.  They seem to ski well in good snow and be a bit chattery and weak in bad snow.  They are also pretty light and make nice backcountry skis.  All three pairs are for sale as I have upgraded to some wood cored Volkls that ski much better.

post #4 of 21

Never been one of my favorite brands, though I'm certainly not hostile. A strong seller in Italy, for sure, backed by all the WC success.

post #5 of 21

I like my Snoops. Cant wait to ski them on some fresh pow next week in Mammoth. 

post #6 of 21

IMO, only, they lost cred with the cap construction air core Beta Series. The flex was wierd, kind of stiff under the boot and flapping at either end. The concave base was a PITA also. Marketing mass quantities through SportMart didn't help their image. Just skied crappy. The race line, non-beta construction but trad sandwich, is as good as any, but that has little impact on appeal and image for freeride skiers.,My kid went to ski academy with the Beta rides and his friends called them "butt cracks" for the rediculous look of the cap design.. That about did it.

post #7 of 21

 

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Originally Posted by csavage View Post

 

Hey guys!

Since I'm new here, I'm going to toss my newbie card and ask-what's up with all the hatin' on Atomic skis?

 

Not that I'm going to ditch my skis, I love them, but my final decision was between them and Salomons (not Xscreams) and I want to know why owning them qualifies me as a gaper-I mean, even Bode loved Atomics before he decided they "sucked"...

 

first let me say that the wood core skis they are making, Snoop. Pimp, Thug, Bent Chentler IMO are amoung the best skiing freeskis on the hill. the negative reviews that the snoop has been getting over here is mostly from people who just arent strong enough or fast enough to ski it IMO.

 

Over on TGR youd be hard pressed to find a negative review on any of them but the bent chentler(which I cant comment on havent skied it).

 

the issue with atomic skis are this and it also has to do with the cap foam core skis they make. which is the majority of the skis.

 

edge quality is subject at best, the only cap atomics which the edge held up fine that I have owned were my snoops(the old cap ones). I have had SL9s, Metron and 2 pairs of Sugar Daddy which all ended thier skiing life due to cracked edge. Sure I hit rocks, but I hit rocks on my  Mantras, Public Enemy, and Atomic Thugs which all have held up fine. MY gotamas took tons of hits but finally died on a landing on to rocks. Id rather have a ski that you don have to be concerned with thin cover.

 

foam cores tend break down faster and not last as long as wood. Atomic generally seems better than the old Solly and Rossis in this regard though, but not as good as the wood core skis.

 

thier cap construction tends to produce a very grabby, aggresive hard snow ski. Its actaully amoung the best in industry for edge grip, but they tend to be hard to control off trail due to grabiness.

 

they arent bad skis for some people but I ll never buy a cap constructed atomic because I am sure to break it.

post #8 of 21

 

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

 

IMO, only, they lost cred with the cap construction air core Beta Series. The flex was wierd, kind of stiff under the boot and flapping at either end. The concave base was a PITA also. Marketing mass quantities through SportMart didn't help their image. Just skied crappy. The race line, non-beta construction but trad sandwich, is as good as any, but that has little impact on appeal and image for freeride skiers.,My kid went to ski academy with the Beta rides and his friends called them "butt cracks" for the rediculous look of the cap design.. That about did it.

 

the freeskis they make are quite good, they are not foam and they are not cap. but wood core sidewall skis.

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Originally Posted by Jancouver View Post

 

I like my Snoops. Cant wait to ski them on some fresh pow next week in Mammoth. 

 

If yoour snoops are the newest model they are not even close to traditional atomic construction which is a very good thing.

post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hmmm...from my snowboarding days I know not to get a foam cored ski, nor are my Atomics foam cored....

My husband's skis may be foam cored, I noticed his ski's camber was gone, but, then again, they're 7 years

So Atomics are okay as long as you're a discerning shopper

post #10 of 21

No hate on Atomics, just people from Texas on Atomics. 

 

 

post #11 of 21

 

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 

 

 

the freeskis they make are quite good, they are not foam and they are not cap. but wood core sidewall skis.

 

If yoour snoops are the newest model they are not even close to traditional atomic construction which is a very good thing.

 

My Snoops are 09 192s. I'm 6'4 205. Got just two weeks on them but so far so good. Great for soft snow spring conditions. Also not bad with up to 10" of fresh pow :-) I liiiiiiike it, liiiiiike it, liiiiike it.

 

PS And they were cheap :-)

post #12 of 21

Contrary to what seems to be the conventional wisdom, I have had good experiences with my Atomic beta foam core skis. I bought some used 10:EXs that I have been using for years as an AT ski. They handle all conditions well for their light weight. I then bought some slightly used R:EXs that have been my all-mountain ski for years and are now my rock skis because I bought M:EXs. Do you see a pattern developing?

 
I have had wood core K2s and Rossis during the same period and they did not seem to age any better. My R:EXs have lost a little life, which shows mainly in their high speed hard snow carving, but they have become better bump skis. I would not hesitate to pull them out anytime and match them against any of the new skis for all-mountain use. I have had some excellent turns on them in big bumps, extreme steeps, curd, powder, and slush this season.  After 4 years of hard use they remain a solid dependable ride in all condtions.. I think their biggest drawback is their low profile tip, but that’s another story. From what I can tell, Atomics tend to have an even medium-firm flex, which works well for a big guy carver like me. In my experience the flex certainly mellows with age in the foam core models, but not in any more of an erratic manner than wood core skis, although possibly a little quicker.
post #13 of 21

Ill chime in here.......Atomics are the only ski that I have actually broken......either edge or the tips cracked. They where foam core skis. This was before I saw the light and went over to a full wood core ski with at least one sheet of metal.

 

Not hating on atomics.....some of their race stuff is fast. I am tempted to hop back on a pair of atomics for next season.

post #14 of 21

I love my Snoop Daddy's (the 06/07  foam cored ones). They do well in any soft snow situation, from groomers to full powder, and great in spring slush. Hard conditions, not so great.

 

They have held up great so far. I love the softer tip and firmer midsection and tail. 

 

So far, so good.

post #15 of 21

 

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I love my Snoop Daddy's (the 06/07  foam cored ones). They do well in any soft snow situation, from groomers to full powder, and great in spring slush. Hard conditions, not so great.

 

They have held up great so far. I love the softer tip and firmer midsection and tail. 

 

So far, so good.

 

 

youd ski everywhere better on the newer snoops including hardpack.

 

post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Jag View Post

 

No hate on Atomics, just people from Texas on Atomics. 

 

 

 

'cuse me?

 

It usually takes a few weeks for people to start hating me, but I guess you must be quick at everything you do...

 

 

post #17 of 21

My old Atomic Race Carve 9:20's are the last skis I bought without demoing. Lesson learned. What a garbage ski. Only capable of one turn length and shape, "hollow" feeling, no snap etc.

 

I always laugh when I see that tripe that there's no bad skis - only bad skiers. All those Mensa candidates should try the 9:20 then rethink that statement.

 

Never another Atomic for me.

post #18 of 21

ski em if ya got em.  Keep em if ya like em.  That is what E-Bay is for.

post #19 of 21

 

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 

 

 

 

youd ski everywhere better on the newer snoops including hardpack.

 

I'll have to try those next year.

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'cuse me?

 

It usually takes a few weeks for people to start hating me, but I guess you must be quick at everything you do...

 

 


 

Ha that's funnay, i never met anyone from TX but i like you already. As for hatin' on atomics i got two pairs maybe my reference in that experts thread confused you but i was just trollin for bushwacher. If anyones got a pair of Atomics that chatter all you gotta do to make em stop is start a new turn. 

post #21 of 21

 

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Originally Posted by csavage View Post

 

 

 

'cuse me?

 

It usually takes a few weeks for people to start hating me, but I guess you must be quick at everything you do...

 

 

 

Ouch, that hurt.

 

Good play, I like your style.

 

 

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