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What's a good powder ski??

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 

I'm looking into getting a new pair of skis, specifically powder ones. But that are also decently good for all-mountain and twin tipped. I was thinking about the K2 obsethed or K2 missbehaved. I heard the obsethed is amazing on powder, but is horrible on anything else, and the missbehaved looks nice but i couldnt find many reviews about them. Does anyone know anything about either of those, or any other suggestions?????

 

Oh and the solomon suspects or threats look awesome but i know theyre park skis, are they any good on powder?

post #2 of 30

PM Gear Lhasa Pows if you can find them.  Slay it all from hard to bottomless. 

post #3 of 30

You might try K2's Tough Luv if you want a ski that does it all.We skied 12" of cream at BB today and the skis were flawless.

post #4 of 30

 

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Originally Posted by skichick33 View Post

 

I'm looking into getting a new pair of skis, specifically powder ones. But that are also decently good for all-mountain and twin tipped. I was thinking about the K2 obsethed or K2 missbehaved. I heard the obsethed is amazing on powder, but is horrible on anything else, and the missbehaved looks nice but i couldnt find many reviews about them. Does anyone know anything about either of those, or any other suggestions?????

 

Oh and the solomon suspects or threats look awesome but i know theyre park skis, are they any good on powder?

A few questions, will you be using the ski in the park? Would you describe yourself as stronger than average, petite or in-between?

 

Michael

 

post #5 of 30

Demo the Volkl Auras while you're at it. 

post #6 of 30

 By your post, I'm assuming that you're looking for a good ski that will work well in powder, not necessarily a Powder specific ski.

In that case, disregard DoWork,  I like the guy but his advice is for a powder specific ski.

 

 

Nolo, however, has some good advice.  

The K2 tough luv is a good choice, but if you have a chance to demo, I'd add the Blizzard Eos and Volkl Aura or Kiku to the list.

 

Skis are quite personal in performance.  You'll do well to try a few if you get a chance and see which one makes you Grin 

post #7 of 30

i guess noone read she wanted a twin and is 17-18 years old which means the graphics that scared you guys away from the better skis in K2s line up, aka the factory series might actualy appeal to her.

 

So yeah

 

my advice is if you want a ski that can handle powder and park is to get the missbehaved in a 169 unless youe taller or more aggresive than I imagine you to be

 

How tall you are and how much you weught plus what you have skied on before could helps us out alot more.

post #8 of 30


 

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Originally Posted by Do Work View Post

 

PM Gear Lhasa Pows if you can find them.  Slay it all from hard to bottomless. 


 

shortest length these come in (at the moment) is 186cm.....so probably not a good choice here.

 

Actually, Trekchik, the Lhasa isn't pow specific.  I use my Lhasa's in all sort of non-powder type terrain.  It handles all off-piste terrain very well.....and can carve turns in corn, crust, etc..  It's not as pow specific as most people think  i.e. it's not like a fully reverse camber/reverse sidecut type ski.

 

But that being said, I agree, still probably not an appropriate ski for the OP due to it's length offerings.

post #9 of 30

Last year I was looking for a good powder ski and tried all sorts of demo skis at Snowbird, Alta, and Snowbasin.  I really liked the Dynastar Legend Exclusive Powder skis.  They are twin tips, really light, and are women's skis so the bindings are mounted a little forward.  They are great in powder, bumps, and hard-pack.  I tried at least 10 different demo skis and then went back to the Dynastars - they were the best!  I ended up buying a pair at the end of the year for about half price.  I think the only way you can find something you like is to try some of the demo skis out there.  I never thought the skis could make such a difference!

post #10 of 30
Thread Starter 

I'm 5'5" and weight 125 lbs and am 16 years old. I'm a steady advanced level skier and I do everything basically but lately have been loving backcountry but my current Fischer Allure's aren't very cut out for that. I have next to no experience in the park, but am interested in trying it out, so I'm just looking for some nice wide twin tips, that are specifically powder but won't have me falling all over the place on anythign but. thanks for all the advice so far!

post #11 of 30

 

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Originally Posted by skichick33 View Post

 

I'm 5'5" and weight 125 lbs and am 16 years old. I'm a steady advanced level skier and I do everything basically but lately have been loving backcountry but my current Fischer Allure's aren't very cut out for that. I have next to no experience in the park, but am interested in trying it out, so I'm just looking for some nice wide twin tips, that are specifically powder but won't have me falling all over the place on anythign but. thanks for all the advice so far!

Consider the Salomon Lord in a 169cm: http://www.sierraskis.com/2009-Salomon-Lord-45452.asp

post #12 of 30

The Roxy Black Magic is the female version of the Dynastar Big Trouble, which is a good all mountain twin that is excellent in powder.

 

You can get them at www.levelninesports.com in either 166 or 176 for $279.  You can also get a matching binding made by Look/Dynastar.

post #13 of 30
Thread Starter 

Are you sure a Roxy ski is any good, I'm kinda biased just because its roxy lol

post #14 of 30

K2 Hellbents - bitching pow skis

 

 

so are SO many others....moments, PMBROs, DPS, Volkls ....

post #15 of 30

 

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Originally Posted by skichick33 View Post

 

Are you sure a Roxy ski is any good, I'm kinda biased just because its roxy lol

 

In that case, throw down for a pair of Mumbo Jumbos.

 

My spouse likes the 169 Hell Bents. A friend really likes her Pandoras...

post #16 of 30

Add the Head Sweet One to your list to consider and I second the Volkl Aura and Kikus.  Kikus are on my to buy list for next season (I want the rockered ones). 

post #17 of 30

 

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Originally Posted by skichick33 View Post

 

I'm 5'5" and weight 125 lbs and am 16 years old. I'm a steady advanced level skier and I do everything basically but lately have been loving backcountry but my current Fischer Allure's aren't very cut out for that. I have next to no experience in the park, but am interested in trying it out, so I'm just looking for some nice wide twin tips, that are specifically powder but won't have me falling all over the place on anythign but. thanks for all the advice so far!

 

You want the Line Pandora 2009 162.  It does everything, effortlessly.  (NOT the 175, which is a soft noodle - completely different ski design, although it looks the same)

 

Powder?  Fabulous.  Just keep the tips up when things flatten out. 

 

Groomers?  No problem.  They have a conventional sidecut and camber, and fairly good torsional stiffness, so it's not at all difficult to get them up on edge.

 

Hardpack?  Tune the edges to 1 degree base, 2 degree side, and you'll have no problem. 

 

Park?  They are super light and easy to swing around.  Also the forward mounting point and long tails give you incredible stability on jumps.

 

Finally, they are a super pretty ski.  I get comments on them all the time.  They are gorgeous without being excessively "girly." 

 

You should be able to get pretty good deals on the 2009 Line Pandora 162.  Or if you can hold out, the 2010 model has an extended tip rocker, which should fix the tip dive issue in shallow powder.

 

I've demoed the Volkl Kiku 2010, and the 2008 Tough Luv.  The Kiku is just fine in powder and probably a better crud buster than the Pandora.  But it's heavy and lacks the Pandora's playfulness.  The Tough Luv is very heavy and damp and basically just blasts through everything.   It is definitely not for the park.   

 

The Pandora is based on the men's Sir Francis Bacon.  You can find out more about them at www.lineskis.com

 

(And no, I don't work for Line.  I just love my skis.)

post #18 of 30
Thread Starter 

The Kiku sounds amazing! But hard to find. I'm gonna demo the MissBehaved tomorrow and see what they're like. The Pandora sounds awesome too, but I'm not really digging the birds and trees

post #19 of 30

I've got the Misbehaved and love them in the powder.  For you, I'd try the 169's...I'm shorter and a little lighter and ride the 159's. They are bouncy and flexie and very fun.  I usually bring them out in more than 3 inches of new snow.

post #20 of 30

Can you tell us a little about your height/weight/ability, etc.?  My GF is looking for versatile powder skis right now too and is considering the Pandora 162 (09)...although if the '10 model is incorporating rocker, maybe should wait...

 

 oops...sorry this was in reference to Acrophobia's rec.

 

Can you also elaborate on the '10 Kiku compared to the Pandora?

post #21 of 30

 

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Originally Posted by MJB View Post

 

The Roxy Black Magic is the female version of the Dynastar Big Trouble, which is a good all mountain twin that is excellent in powder.

 

You can get them at www.levelninesports.com in either 166 or 176 for $279.  You can also get a matching binding made by Look/Dynastar.

Are Roxy skis generally female versions of Dynastar skis?

post #22 of 30

My daughter, who keeps bouncing between Oregon and Montana, has Salomon Scarlets in a 164cm length and 168cm original Volkl Gotamas.  She uses the Gotamas for big dumps and loves them.  For smaller snowfalls and crud she uses the Scarlets.  The Kikus are suppose to be very similar to the original Gotamas in flex and dimensions.  I would hesitate to buy them for anything but powder.

 

The Misbehaven is the replacement for the K2 Nancy.  Everyone I've talked to that has the Nancy loves them especially in powder.  The Misbehaven's a bit wider so it should be even better in powder.  You should also look at the Salomon Scarlet.  It does well in powder, is fun on groomers and is very light.

post #23 of 30

My wife tried a couple of skies recently, so here was here feedback:

She tried the Volkl Auras, Line Celebrities, and the Head Sweet Fat Thang.

In that Order  they were Poppa Bear, Momma Bear and Baby Bear.

Aura kicked ass, but took alot  of power to carve on Non-Powder.

Celebrities, were not lively enough,  Would lean more towards a Park Ski.

Sweet Fat Thang  Good all around Although More For Powder.

She ended up Buying these for 300 including bindings (Dynastar with 12 DIN?)

  Auras Would have cost twice as much.  We skied for a week around Park CIty, and Alta.  First three days in spring conditions, one day on ice and 2 days in 1 and a half feet of powder.  Overall she was very happy with her choice.  She later told me the Auras would have been worth the money if she was going to building a quiver, but for the money the head skis were great value.

post #24 of 30


 

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Originally Posted by skichick33 View Post

 

I'm 5'5" and weight 125 lbs and am 16 years old. I'm a steady advanced level skier and I do everything basically but lately have been loving backcountry but my current Fischer Allure's aren't very cut out for that. I have next to no experience in the park, but am interested in trying it out, so I'm just looking for some nice wide twin tips, that are specifically powder but won't have me falling all over the place on anythign but. thanks for all the advice so far!


 

Oh man, I was way off- I saw you said "specifically powder" and I figured the obsethed was at smallest a 179 with a fatty waist.  Your h/w does pretty much rule you out for Lhasas tho, sorry.    

 

You want something wide and twin for bc...  Maybe either a BRO 164 or 174?  There's alot of choices out there for that but I think both sizes are on crazy firesale too.  Might be worth a look.       

post #25 of 30

+1 for the Volkl Aura.  My S.O. has a pair, and absolutely loves them!  They were the only ski that she brought to France this year, so she was forced to ski them in a variety of conditions and she had no problem turning them no matter what the snow.  She's 28, 5'5 118lbs and has the 163.  She's probably a level 7ish skier.

 

ps. If you didn't know, the Aura is the womens version of the Mantra.    

post #26 of 30

 

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Originally Posted by Rio View Post

 

 

 

The Misbehaven is the replacement for the K2 Nancy.  Everyone I've talked to that has the Nancy loves them especially in powder.  The Misbehaven's a bit wider so it should be even better in powder.  You should also look at the Salomon Scarlet.  It does well in powder, is fun on groomers and is very light.

 

Sorry, I've got to weigh in on the Nancy.  I about threw that ski back at the guy. All over the hill, limp noodle.  Scarlet are okay, no great shakes, but the Nancy sucks so bad I took one run with it on a powder day.  The Aura I loved.  I don't own any of these, but in spite of the fact that I've been skiing K2's for years, I HATED the Nancy big time.  

post #27 of 30

Moment Pika - will ski it all very well

post #28 of 30

 

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Originally Posted by Do Work View Post

 

Maybe either a BRO 164 or 174?  There's alot of choices out there for that but I think both sizes are on crazy firesale too.  Might be worth a look.       

 

the bros are on sale? I thought they were sold direct by pm gear and were not discounted. If im wrong let us/me know id like a pair

post #29 of 30

 

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the bros are on sale? I thought they were sold direct by pm gear and were not discounted. If im wrong let us/me know id like a pair

164's, 174's, and 195's are all listed at pmgear.com for $499 right now.  Pretty sure that's a discounted price, seeing as how the rest of the sizes are $739 and up!   

post #30 of 30

thanks for the heads Jap Pow....too bad the 179s or 183s are not on sale. im 6 foot 175lb.... 

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