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post #1 of 13
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I have been looking for skis for an agressive skiing 7 yr old boy (Nastar gold level) and the ones I have seen all seem to be a generic model with different graphics. What would you reccomend that would not be too stiff for his 45lbs and better than the 120cm atomic race 6 skis he uses now....

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I have been looking for skis for an agressive skiing 7 yr old boy (Nastar gold level) and the ones I have seen all seem to be a generic model with different graphics. What would you reccomend that would not be too stiff for his 45lbs and better than the 120cm atomic race 6 skis he uses now....

 

Need more info. With all due respect, NASTAR gold is good but it's not that great if that is the only thing he's good at. (I know of plenty who can be a super star on NASTAR but cannot ski well, if that, on anything else) What is your location? What's his height and weight? What do you want him to do with these skis besides NASTAR racing? At this age, there aren't a lot of ski choices but it helps to narrow that down.

 

BTW, 120cm seems long for a 7yo. He must be really tall (and strong). Otherwise, the only thing the 120cm is good for is NASTAR racing.

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

he is strong but but not tall, I checked the skis and they are 110cm - about as tall as he is at 44in

upper midwest skiing at Mt Aswabay far northern WI

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Is he really outskiing the Race 6, or just strong & confident enough to run them straight at good speeds?

 

Moving up a step to something like an Atomic Race 8 or Race 10 at 120/125 cm would give a bit more stability, but at 45 lbs, they could be hard to turn, and that would not help skill development at that age.

 

The next step up for performance in a GS oriented ski would be 130 cm and up, not good choices for 7 yrs/45 lbs. 

 

If you do go to a longer & beefier ski, keep the Race 6 to practice turning, especially short & quick turns.  Good to develop comfort with speed, but at that age you also want a strong focus on developing agility.

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If you do go to a longer & beefier ski, keep the Race 6 to practice turning, especially short & quick turns.  Good to develop comfort with speed, but at that age you also want a strong focus on developing agility.

+1 on that suggestion since the Race 6 is more of a basic ski. For his race oriented ski, either Dynastar Omeglass or Elan RC Jr Race would be a good choice. I still wouldn't go too long (110 or 120 for next year) with those either. For race skill development, SL is just as important (if not more) as GS turns (which NASTAR is to kids his age).

 

http://www.dynastar.com/#/products/skis/ref=da8mr03/

http://elanskis.com/pcc.asp?xpath=&xpathid=&xpathid2=&xpathid3=&lang=usa

 

When he reaches 8, then you can choose to go to a SL or dual event.

 

Good luck.

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Moving up a step to something like an Atomic Race 8 or Race 10 at 120/125 cm would give a bit more stability, but at 45 lbs, they could be hard to turn, and that would not help skill development at that age.

I'll just say that the Race 8 isn't a step up from Race 6 really. When the Race 6 was current the range looked like:

 

Race 5 - Race 6 - SL9/GS9 - SL11/GS11 (real jr. race skis)

 

Now it looks like

 

Race 7 - Race 8 - Race 10 - Race SL/GS (real jr. race skis)

 

Race 6 and Race 8 fill the same slot - basically kids skis with a racing inspired topsheet.

 

The Race 10 would be a manageable  step up, while remaining multidiscipline i.e. closer to SL radius than GS.

post #7 of 13

Just wondering (as a parent of a skier) what you are looking to accomplish in a new ski ?  Better placing in races ? Or has your child outgrown the ski, overwhelms it with his skills & abilities, and last,  what does his coach recommend ?

post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 

He does overwhelm these skis - he gets a lot of leg power from martial arts and genetics from his mothers side. The nastar is a casual family event there are no coaches involved he did well enough that some of the experienced racers advised me to get him a better pair of skis for next year and he would do better.

 

I will look for some of the skis reccomended on this thread and let you guys know how he is doing next season

                                                           Thanks.....

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The Race 10 would be a manageable  step up, while remaining multidiscipline i.e. closer to SL radius than GS.

I would have to disagree with this one for a 45lb 7yo non-competitive racer/skier. If he puts on at least another 20 lbs next year and goes through a race program, then it's a different story. Don't get me wrong as it's a GREAT and really well made ski but it would be wrong to recommend it to the OP. BTW, the Race 10 is factory set to a 3deg side bevel -- definitely too aggressive for the OP's son at this time.

 

I wrote up something brief for the Race 10 at the beginning of the season

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/75397/atomic-race-10-one-man-s-opinion

post #10 of 13

wisblacksmith, have you thought about putting your child in a race program? Based on his interest that you described, I think it'll be good for him.

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I agree with chanwmr.  Don't get in a hurry to get your son on a bigger, stiffer ski.  Technique and skill development at his age is far more important than doing well in races.  I'll use my son as an example.  He is 9 and weighs about 65lbs and has been skiing on a pair of 120cm Race 8's for the past 1.5 seasons.  Up until he got his 120's he was on a Race 6 in 110's.   He is technically very good, is in a race program, and can beat bigger and stronger kids on better skis. When he doesn't do well in a race it wasn't the skis fault.  Trust me.

 

The bottom line is it isn't the ski that makes the skier at a young age it is that skier's desire to get better and willingness to learn that will make him a great skier in a couple of years.  Race results now don't mean much.  Proper development does.  It would be nice to see some video of him skiing before recommending a ski.  Can he carve yet?

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Originally Posted by Squawker View Post

 

 

I'll just say that the Race 8 isn't a step up from Race 6 really. When the Race 6 was current the range looked like:

 

...

 

Race 6 and Race 8 fill the same slot - basically kids skis with a racing inspired topsheet.
 

 

I would put the current Race 8 ahead of the earlier Race 6, but not necessarily by a large step, so I think your point is valid.

 

That does bring up another consideration -- even kids skis wear out, so maybe the OP's son would simply benefit from a new ski in a similar range if he's outskiing the old ones because they've lost their responsiveness.

post #13 of 13

When my son moved to the Race 8 from the Race 6 he felt a noticable difference in the ski.  I could see that he was going through a minor adjustment period.  This period did not last long (a couple of hours maybe) and I am sure the length change had a lot to do with it.  I still say the OP should stick with what he has until his son grow and gains some weight unless his son is really able to carve on the Race 6's.

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