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Rossi Developmental Skis

post #1 of 7
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Hullo Folks!! Quick question. OK first a quick set-up.

Our rental shop as just been outfitted (1/3 of the fleet) with the "Rossignol Develpmental Series" skis. Numbered 1, 2, and 3. Supposedly the Rep is going to come up and show me a little about them, but I'm not holding my breath.

So I put it to you guys and gals. Any experience with these rentals in lessons? Any changes made to the lesson plan? SHOULD there be any changes to the lesson plan? What is their focus? they look like skis to me!!

Thanks in advance.

Spag's quote of the day:
"Having sex at 90 is like playing pool with a rope."
- George Burns -
post #2 of 7
Yep!, This is how I learned at the ASC resorts. 110s at level 1, 120s at level 2, 130s at level 3.

Only gripe; When you're ready to buy real skis, very few instructors can tell you what length to buy. It feels wicked weird to go from 130s to 160s.
post #3 of 7
this system from Rossi is similar to the psx short ski from Elan. THIS IS NOT GLM REVISITED

It provides the oportunity to be very different in the approach to teacheing never evers. At our mountain we fins that most students are doing some version of a skidded parallel turn after about 1.5 hrs on snow. Many are making a parrallel trun from the begining and need to be taught the wedge as a tool to stop in lift lines and other narrow spaces. Email me for more instructor training regarding teaching with short skiis info hap2ski@hotmail.com
post #4 of 7

We played with 120's in the "Three Steps to Success" clinic last year. We worked on a direct to parallel beginner progression which seems to be pretty successful provided that these short skis are used. We started out with a lot of boot work (emphasising the concepts of tipping, turning, and flexing), scootering, and flat terrain work on two skis. When we got to the point where we were sliding down a gentle slope we started with stepping turns, (to turn left step left with the left ski etc). Stepping transitioned to shuffling, eventually to gliding.

I've tried variations of this progression at Loveland in our 2 1/2 hour first timer lessons and felt that it was less effective using the longer skis (minimum 140) from our rental shop. Also I haven't figured out how to fit the whole progression into a 2 1/2 hour group lesson yet unless its a very small group. Even with this progression I spend some time on the wedge turn because it seems to give people more confidence so that they will be able to go off on their own after the lesson.

I can tell you that I sure didn't like skiing on those 120's, but that may have been because they looked as if they had been tuned by dragging them through the parking lot.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ November 03, 2001 12:36 PM: Message edited 1 time, by JimL ]</font>
post #5 of 7
Head has a similar program with their Cyclone series. They say parallel in a day. I have a pair of Cyclone 160cm that I use for teaching. A really fun ski. They are pertty radically shape at 120/70/110? I used them yesterday on my first day and I had forgotten how quickly they turn. But they are pretty solid for a short ski.
post #6 of 7
Hey Spag,
Are these the *Cut* series... If they are or aren't...let me put in my $.02 praise for the Rossi Cuts!...for a rental ski...I think they offer a pretty fair ride.
post #7 of 7

We use them in our rental shop. Several of us have had a lot of luck with direct to parallel stuff with them.

What we are doing is changing our lessons to include balance over both corresponding and opposing edges right from the beginning. This way we don't have to try to make people do either. We just guide them along the best path for each of them. If people end up needing the braking wedge for reasons of security or whatever, well, we can teach that too. Generally we present in a short segment just before heading to the chair. Most people don't need it though.

We actually have the groups 'regrouped' into different skill developent paths; so some use gliding wedge/christie stuff, some direct to parallel, some use forward sideslip/traverse stuff etc.

I don't think it is NECESSARY to change (I don't know what you use) unless you want to be able to present your clients with all of the benefits of the new gear. Then, the standard, traditional progression (the way a lot of people teach it without differentiating between the braking and gliding wedges) must change.

Braking wedges don't work as well on the gear anyway. It takes beginners a lot more force to do it than more traditional skis. The Rossi's are built for turning

Believe it or not, these skis ARE different, and do offer advantages to beginners that some other current skis don't. Rossi's Accelerator boards offer boarding newts many advantages over regular boards too.

Hey Spag. Sorry I haven't answered that PM about training. I got busy, my bosses have been gone to training for ten days and I've had A ****load of work to do.
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