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Ski the flush

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
What's the technique for skiing the flush?
post #2 of 15
Quick feet. Try not to let your stance get too narrow or try to force the skis to turn quickly. It's generally just a rock from side to side on modern slaloms. Sometimes I ride them on one dominant ski. Keep looking ahead to see where the exit is so you can set up for it. I use flushes to get forward on my skis if I get back or lose a rhythm. I look forward to them, since I'm usually back or out of sync.
Have fun, they're nothing to fear.
post #3 of 15
Just wiggle through them pretty much, and be ready to exit fast. Always remember which way you are going to exit. Try to block the flush with only one hand in order to focus on getting as much speed out of the section as possible. The flush is no place to jam your turns, try to be foreward, smooth, and have a powerful exit to the next turn.
post #4 of 15
New term....what's "flush"? I did a search and it's some kind of gate? :
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
It's a series of gates on a slalom course, all aligned exactly vertical to the fall line. Each gate is 6m wide, with a .75 m spacing to the next gate. Normally 3 or 4 gates in length.

A three gate version can be set like this: (R and B are red and blue poles):

fall line --> R--6m--R-.75m-B--6m--B-.75m-R--6m--R --->fall line.

It's clear that knocking the gates over gives the shortest path.

What I surmise, is that the weight transfer in the flush, the "rocking side to side", is probably assisted by some inside ski tip lead.

This would put you in position to take one skate stride away from the last gate of the flush onto the next gate. This would also allow you to view the movements through the flush with some "pedalling" feel. But I'm not sure if that is the norm these days....

On my home hill, the flush is usually placed on flat terrain, near the finish. The challenge is to negotiate it at full tilt or close to it. It can be placed on the steepest pitch too, but that happens very rarely.
post #6 of 15
Thanks for the visual. It sounds like a fun thing to do. Where can people like me learn to manuever around these things? I wish more ski areas had the timed racecourses set up for the peeps to use.

We made one at Bousquet one night out of pine branches. It wasn't very good, but it was still fun.
post #7 of 15
With today's Break-A-Way slalom poles, you ski "through" them, not around them. It's hard to find a NASTAR slalom course, and usually they're pretty open, but you can see if the local town league or Masters program has slalom training and hop in there. Sometimes junior programs will let you tag along too.
post #8 of 15
You use one hand on a three gate flush because the first one is an angulated turn but the second is straight and requires no angulation so it is "shouldered". The third gate usually exits to an offset and has to be set up requiring an angulated turn in the same direction as the entry. A four gate flush would go: outside clear, shoulder, other shoulder then outside clear with the opposite hand as the first clear.
Tactics are: line up the skis in the direction of the flush(or hairpin) at the first gate to enter, same for the next gate, then (in a three gate flush)turn out and be coming back across the hill to exit on the last gate (in a four gater go straight for one more gate). I tell the kids "come in straight on top and always turn out and back to go through the last set of doubles of a combination".(this applies to hairpins too)
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks SLATZ!

I think I have it right....

3 gates:

Since the skier is crossing over the top gate, the turn through the first gate is angulated. The upper most pole is cleared with the outside hand. I'll try this 3 gate example to see if I've got it. The four gate flush follows fairly easily.

Let's assume the entry to the first gate requires a left hand turn to be set up -- the skier is crossing over the upper most pole of the flush from left to right. (looking downhill)

The right hand is the outside hand, so it clears the upper most pole of gate 1 near the end of this angulated left hand turn. At the end of this turn the skis are lined up close to the fall line, not across the hill.

Just before entering gate 1, the skier should begin the transition, and be edged the other way immediately on exit of gate 1. This sets up a very steep traverse, very close to fall-line, through gate 2.

Gate 2 is a straight run through, so that the bottom pole of gate 1 and the top pole of gate 2 are shouldered with the right shoulder. The ski's are edged back to a left turn to enter gate 3, with mid gate 2 being the transition point.

The final turn will exit gate 3, and is angulated as necessary, so that the turn for the next gate in the course is set up. The lower pole of gate 2 and upper pole of gate three is cleared with the right hand during this final angulated turn...

4 gates:

The first gate is managed the same as the 3 gate flush.

There is a little "wiggle" between using one shoulder on entry to gate 2 and the other on entry to gate 3. These are the "inside" shoulders. The skier is standing tall during this "wiggle".

The bottom pole of gate 3 and upper pole of gate 4 is cleared using the opposite hand from that which cleared gate 1.
post #10 of 15
That's basically it.
Don't forget that if the exit is a left turn(R hand clear)the gate before the exit(2 or 3)reguires that you turn to the right to "set it up".(a right shoulder contact with 2 or 3)
I don't know how to "draw" with the computor. It's a lot clearer with a drawing. When I inspect with young athletes I draw lines in the snow at the gates with my gate wrench.
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
Looks like a bunch of corruption in this thread.

In reply to Bonni, I posted that a e gate flush is a series of 3 gates (six poles in all ), 6 meters wide that are aligned on the fall line, with 3/4 ( 0.75 ) meters between each gate.

IIRC, SLATZ posted that a three gate flush is handled by one angulated turn into the first gate, clearing with the outside hand, followed by a straight run that shoulders the next gate with the inside shoulder, and then the third gate is cleared with the same hand as used in clearing the first gate, while angulating a turn as necessary to get set up for the next gate in the course.

A four gate flush would be: clear outside, shoulder, shoulder, clear outside. The clears would use different hands.

I posted a detailed description that I would rather not try to post again, but it's main points were:

1) ensure that the transition out of the first angulated turn that brought you into the flush starts before you actually enter it, so the actual transition from edge to edge occurs while crossing gate 1 -- a very vertical line.

2) gate 2 then is a straight run through, with transition as you go through.

3) gate 3 is angulated as needed to set up the next turn on course.

A four gate flush involves sort of a "wiggle" while standing tall and shouldering of gates 2 and 3. I suggested that the weight transfer during the wiggle would be helped if there was a small tip lead of the inside ski....

If the RH is used to clear the top pole of gate 1 on entry, then the LH is used to clear the bottom pole of gate 3 and top of gate 4 on exit.

post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
Whoa! All the missing posts are back after I replied!

HMM... file that trick for future reference!
post #13 of 15
In support of Slatz and the one hand use for common three gate flushes, another key aspect is that the body should not cross the center-line of a three gate flush. Keeping the body on the same side of the flush as the offset gates before and after it shortens the line of the body mass. Also turning the back of the inside shoulder to the second (straighter) turn aligns the body toward the offset turn after the flush.

I set a drill course to train for this of 4 or more consecutive 3-gate flushes that are blocked one handed: left-left-left then right-right-right, etc. Watching from the bottom, the racers body should stay in the central ally created by the alternating flushes on either side.

For a four-gater the body starts entry side for first gates, crosses thru second gate to opposite side and aligns toward the next offset following fourth gate.
post #14 of 15
Yeah, I am still nursing that one hand after a flush this past Saturday... I think I'll be buying the hand protection pole attachments - or tougher gloves - next season...
post #15 of 15
Good Idea!
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