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post #1 of 24
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What is the best way to store skis to keep the edges from rusting?  I don't have a "climate controlled" low humidity environment to keep them in.  I have actually had rust develop on the edges UNDER the wax.  Is there anything that can be applied to the edges to prevent rust that will not contaminate the base?

post #2 of 24

What is your location? You didn't say.

 

If you're in the mid to Northern part of Northeast, keeping them away from a damp basement and the garage is usually good enough. There are two places in the house I store skis: open hallway on 2nd floor and the dehumidified basement. With or without wax, there is no rust to speak of year after year. A thin coat of wax never hurts. Just make sure the edges are air dried before the wax is applied.

post #3 of 24

I always wipe dry my skis at the end of the day. A few drops of light oil on a cloth to wipe the edges will help. Most important, I think, is to store the skis in the open, not closed up in a bag. I keep all my skis on a wall rack next to my bed.

Works for me!

post #4 of 24

Dry them completely, wax them fully, keep them somewhere open away from moisture, and don't stand them up on cement.

post #5 of 24


 

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Originally Posted by jonrpen View Post

 A few drops of light oil on a cloth to wipe the edges will help.

Be careful about getting any type of oil on your bases, as it can slow\stop the absoption of wax into them.

Just iron in a nice coat of warm temperature wax, letting it drip over the edges. Then store them upright somewhere dry and reasonably cool until next season. When it's time to pull them out early next winter, scrape them and start brushing.

post #6 of 24

Dont you have a hot-box?   Store the skis in there.

post #7 of 24

Don't know too much about your gear or location etc, but other than what the previous people suggested, I would ask if your edges are polished or not.  I mean filing edges is great to get them sharp, but besides final sharpening, using multiple diamond stones of increasingly finer grit after filing actually hardens and polishes the edges.  This gives less opportunity for rust to form in "pits" on the edges.  

post #8 of 24
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LIQUID CAR WAX IS THE ANSWER!  Last spring I cleaned up, sharpened, and put a coat of CH8 on all the skis.  The final touch was applying a coat of liquid car wax to the side edge/base edge.  The base edges were already coated with the CH8 but the car wax covered any spots I may have missed. 

 

I got the idea last winter when buffing and polishing the sidewalls on the race skis and decided to put a coat of liquid car wax on the sidewalls - and thought it might work good on the edges for storage.

 

They all look beautiful! Came through the summer in fine shape with no rust! I'm a happy Basement Ski Tech!

 

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post #9 of 24

Note about LCW: can easily include suspended abrasives / cleaners designed to take unwashed dirt and soap scum off the paint surface.

post #10 of 24

When I store my skis in my garage (Pacific Northwest), they never rust. 

 

If I leave my skis in my roof top box after a day of skiing, even if left in the box for only one night, there's already rust spots forming on the edges.

post #11 of 24

Rub a warm wax bar over the edges.  No need for anything fancy.

post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by huhh View Post

Rub a warm wax bar over the edges.  No need for anything fancy.



This, and don't store them in anyplace where humidity can attack them.  Garages, sheds, basements, and attics are usually a poor place to store skis, boots, or crackers..

 

 

post #13 of 24
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This, and don't store them in anyplace where humidity can attack them.  Garages, sheds, basements, and attics are usually a poor place to store skis, boots, or crackers..


So I learned. Just brought my skis in from the garage in the rear, and sure enough, had a bit of rust on the edges. Lightly running a gummi stone over them cleaned the rust right off, though. Good as new.

 

post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post



This, and don't store them in anyplace where humidity can attack them.  Garages, sheds, basements, and attics are usually a poor place to store skis, boots, or crackers..

 

 


However, when you are a family of 5 racers/freeskiers with 20+ pair of skis around its not so easy to find the room to store them in a humidity controlled environment. I work hard to get highly polished, sharp edges on the race skis.  I don't want them getting the slightest bit of pitting from rust during storage.  I have tried many different things over the years and this has worked the best. Just wanted to share...

 

post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by Basement Ski Tech View Post


However, when you are a family of 5 racers/freeskiers with 20+ pair of skis around its not so easy to find the room to store them in a humidity controlled environment. I work hard to get highly polished, sharp edges on the race skis.  I don't want them getting the slightest bit of pitting from rust during storage.  I have tried many different things over the years and this has worked the best. Just wanted to share...

 


Different strokes for different folks I suppose.  Sounds like a quick and easy way to mothball them for summer.

 

Personally, I'd be more worried about the polymer from the paste wax being difficult to completely remove before applying actual ski wax so the ski wax wouldn't stick well.  A hot coat of "storage wax" or even plain old all purpose ski wax ironed on but not scraped will keep them perfect and 90% ready to ride next time. Just scrape them when the snow falls.   I store my skis (10-15 pairs at a time) in a converted porch addition that also houses music gear and other hobby stuff.  It's better than a shed or garage, but not as good as an indoor closet.  Under a bed is another excellent place. 

 

Regardless, keeping them waxed but not scraped has proven to work best and easiest for me over my 30+ years of doing this.

 

post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by Basement Ski Tech View Post

  I have actually had rust develop on the edges UNDER the wax.  Is there anything that can be applied to the edges to prevent rust that will not contaminate the base?



Do you mean under the WAX, or under the P-Tex? I suspect you mean the latter. Which is bad. Those skis probably aren't long for the world.

 

As huhh and crg said, just take a crappy old piece of wax (or a candle stub) and run it along the edges when you get off the hill. The little bit of wax will keep the edges from rusting. Both on the ride home from the mountain, and in your basement in the summer.

post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post


Different strokes for different folks I suppose.  Sounds like a quick and easy way to mothball them for summer.

 

Personally, I'd be more worried about the polymer from the paste wax being difficult to completely remove before applying actual ski wax so the ski wax wouldn't stick well.  A hot coat of "storage wax" or even plain old all purpose ski wax ironed on but not scraped will keep them perfect and 90% ready to ride next time. Just scrape them when the snow falls.   I store my skis (10-15 pairs at a time) in a converted porch addition that also houses music gear and other hobby stuff.  It's better than a shed or garage, but not as good as an indoor closet.  Under a bed is another excellent place. 

 

Regardless, keeping them waxed but not scraped has proven to work best and easiest for me over my 30+ years of doing this.

 

 

The liquid (not paste) wax does not touch the base of the ski, so that is a non-issue.  The base, and base edge have a coat of unscraped storage wax. The liquid wax goes on the sidewall, side edge, and on top of the storage wax on the base edge just in case the base edge is not completely sealed by the storage wax.  So, no liquid wax comes in contact with the base material.

 

You obviously have a very good place to store the skis that limits rust and do not have to be concerned about the unprotected side edge. Some of us need to take additional measures.

 

Polishing and waxing the sidewall is a tip I learned from the national Swix rep at a ski tuning seminar. Only on the race skis of course, no need to do that on the other skis.

 

BST
 

 

post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sinecure View Post



Do you mean under the WAX, or under the P-Tex? I suspect you mean the latter. Which is bad. Those skis probably aren't long for the world.

 

As huhh and crg said, just take a crappy old piece of wax (or a candle stub) and run it along the edges when you get off the hill. The little bit of wax will keep the edges from rusting. Both on the ride home from the mountain, and in your basement in the summer.



Under the wax on the base edge. I think what happens sometimes in some spots is that the wax is just sitting on top of the base edge metal and not adhered completely, so humidity can get in between and a little rust can develop over the summer. Its been minimal, but I hate rust! A little rust on the free-skiing skis is no big deal, but on the race skis I work hard to keep a highly polished edge with no pitting.  A magnifying glass can reveal some ugly things. The application of liquid wax on the side edge and on top of the storage wax on the base edge prevented it.  Its just for off-season storage, not everyday coming off the hill.  

 

As long as they are wiped down dry after the ski or race day there isn't a problem. However, a typical scenario is your kid(s) are at a multi-day race or camp.  They finish GS, the skis go in the team trailer and sit for 2 days during SL events and another day on the drive home.  The skis come back with, you guessed it, RUST! Its a constant battle to get kids to take really good care of their equipment. Lost items were reduced after we established a policy that mom & dad only buy things once and if they loose something they have to buy it. Its all a learning experience!

 

BST

post #19 of 24

Wasn't there a liquid product that had an applicator sponge on the bottle? I seem to recall you just dried off your edges and wiped this stuff on. It prevented oxygen from reaching the edges and causing rust. It didn't need to be removed before skiing either.

I think it was sold by Toko.

 

Mike

post #20 of 24

Zardoz still has a fleece; Toko had a  sponge on a liquid squeeze bottle  a /long/ time ago.

post #21 of 24
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a /long/ time ago.


I'm not as young as I act sometimes.

 

Mike
 

 

post #22 of 24

TL; DR


I use silicone spray. 

comes in a red can, at walmart.

'nuff said. 

post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by LordSteezus View Post

TL; DR


I use silicone spray. 

comes in a red can, at walmart.

'nuff said. 


I've heard that silicones can clog the bases and be a problem as far as wax absorption.

 

Mike

 

post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by ctskierguy View Post


I've heard that silicones can clog the bases and be a problem as far as wax absorption.

 

Mike

 



i clean them with mineral spirits lightly and clean it with water after, than apply

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